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when it becomes a command hierarchy it is no longer accountable to "civilians" i.e. users
(clarifying good vs. evil in context of trolls vs. sysops, trollism view, ..Red Faction view)
(when it becomes a command hierarchy it is no longer accountable to "civilians" i.e. users)
 
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A [[sysop]] is someone capable of employing [[technological escalation]] against their enemies, who they typically label "[[trolls]]".  Those who [[unequal power relationship|lack the technologically granted powers]] will often adopt the label "[[troll]]" as a mark of pride and create [[faction]]s to oppose the power structure.  This may be considered to be [[politics as usual]].
A [[sysop]] is someone capable of employing [[technological escalation]] against their enemies, who they typically label "[[trolls]]".  Those who [[unequal power relationship|lack the technologically granted powers]] will often adopt the label "[[troll]]" as a mark of pride and create [[faction]]s to oppose the trivial [[power structure]] that seeks to [[block IP]]s of their fellows.  This is [[politics as usual]] - no different in wikis than elsewhere.


As with cops, any view of any '''sysop power structure''' is necessarily quite controversial:  those within it see themselves as "doing their job" to make a [[wiki mission]] happen.  Those outside it see them necessarily more critically:
As with cops, any view of any '''sysop power structure''' is necessarily quite controversial:  those within it see themselves as "doing their job" to make a [[wiki mission]] happen.  Those outside it see them necessarily more critically:
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1. at the very least, sysops should/must be required to spend one-third of their time with no sysop status at all - this ensures that they must ask others for help at least some of the time, and, have some experience of end user status
1. at the very least, sysops should/must be required to spend one-third of their time with no sysop status at all - this ensures that they must ask others for help at least some of the time, and, have some experience of end user status


2. arrangements where sysops do what "off-duty" sysops ask without question, must be detected and discouraged - say by permanent loss of status for both - it must be clear that everything done by any sysop is done on their own best judgement - any "just following orders" or "just doing as asked" excuses are contrary to a [[rule of law]].
2. arrangements where sysops do what "off-duty" sysops ask without question, must be detected and discouraged - say by permanent loss of status for both - it must be clear that everything done by any sysop is done on their own best judgement - any "just following orders" or "just doing as asked" excuses are contrary to a [[rule of law]] - becoming a simple unaccountable and permanent [[command hierarchy]] - more akin to a military or [[priestly hierarchy]] than a civilian-controlled police structure.


3. EVERY [[revert]] or [[block IP]] action must ''cost'' something - there must be a finite pool of "credit" that a sysop ''uses up'' by taking these actions, and it must be ''depleted'' if the action is ultimately reversed and reversal stands.  This is how judges are judged - by how likely their verdicts are to be reversed on appeal.  This will discourage [[sysop vandalism]] extremely strongly and probably such a system could and should be extended to all users.
3. EVERY [[revert]] or [[block IP]] action must ''cost'' something - there must be a finite pool of "credit" that a sysop ''uses up'' by taking these actions, and it must be ''depleted'' if the action is ultimately reversed and reversal stands.  This is how judges are judged - by how likely their verdicts are to be reversed on appeal.  This will discourage [[sysop vandalism]] extremely strongly and probably such a system could and should be extended to all users.
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