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Use of a [[jabber.org]] ID has been suggested as an '''interwiki identity standard''' or '''single login''' or '''sign-on''' for many [[large public wiki]]s, in particular for all [[GFDL corpus access provider]]s.
See [http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.phtml?title=interwiki_identity_standard interwiki identity standard] for a proposal for [[GetWiki]] recognition of one ID, preferably [[jabber.org]] ID, for all of [[GetWiki]] space.


=== making attribution claims easier ===
If [[GetWiki]] also monitors the whole [[GFDL text corpus]] at the [[standard wiki URI]]s, and the [[wikitext standard]] supports the [[RecentChanges]] and [[DeletedPages]] log's conventions, it would be easy to have some common address other than simple [[IP number]]s across many [[large public wiki]]s.


Basically, the advantage is that [[attribution]] as required by [[GFDL]] and [[CC-by]] licenses becomes more or less automatic assuming the identity or sign-on is not [[cracked]]:  people '''login''' once under a persistent [[pseudonym]] or perhaps their [[body name]] if they voluntarily disclose that, and thereafter, whatever is done from that [[login]] is properly attributed.
This would simplify [[identity dispute]]s for those who used such a voluntary common ID.  For clashing allegations of identity, only a [[faction]] system can possibly work.  ''See [http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.phtml?title=Wikinfo:faction Wikinfo:faction] for a proposal for this that would suit pan-GFDL editing.''
 
This has many advantages, few drawbacks, and tends to help overcome the problems with strict [[IP number]] based accountability and with [[identity dispute]]s arising from the many different [[user name space]]s.  It should also solve the [[GFDL corpus]] problems with the [[attribution]] required by the [[GFDL]] itself and reduce the impact of [[Wikimedia corruption]] on the [[GFDL corpus]].
 
By reducing assumptions about [[alleged and collective identity]], i.e. the allegation or assumption that User:X on Wiki:X "is also" User:X on Wiki Y, it may reduce [[identity dispute]]s.  For those who used such a voluntary common ID or '''single sign-on''' it would be slightly more difficult to impersonate them.   
 
Ensuring all [[wiki user page]]s alleged to, or claimed to, belong to "the same person", and keeping these claims or allegations correctly attributed, is further simplified by reliance on a [[standard wiki URI]] for all such pages.  ''Typically the [[Language:User:]] space is reserved for this on [[MediaWiki-based service]]s.''
 
=== factions still required ===
 
However, for clashing allegations of identity, with deliberate deception, only a [[faction]] system can possibly work in the long run.  ''See [http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.phtml?title=Wikinfo:faction en:Wikinfo:faction] for a proposal for this that would suit pan-GFDL editing, and[http://ouranswer.org/wiki.phtml?title=faction en: OurAnswer:faction] for an experiment in this method.''
 
''(insert example of the variety and complexity of problems arising from lack of such a standard, exploitation possibilities caused by identity confusion)''
 
Such a standard would not resolve other collective and alleged identity questions, where one is dealing not with self-alleged identity but with other-alleged identity.  There is a fairly complex interaction between the question of factions and that of [[power structure]]s, including the role of [[sysop]]s and other such empowered users, and those they specifically disempower, called "[[trolls]]" and "[[vandals]]". Much of the complexity is re: trolling:
 
Avoiding the issue of an '''interwiki identity standard''' will almost certainly lead to various assertions that "X is a troll" where X is some inexactly defined cluster of concepts or styles or [[IP number]]s, leading to what are called [[echo chamber]] allegations floating all over, and even to other [[large public wiki]]s.  Accordingly this is probably an important issue to address in [[GetWiki]], which ideally would support jabber.org logins.
 
=== Wikinfo could have led, but won't ===
 
This is a huge problem on [[Wikipedia]] and somewhat on [[Wikinfo]], though this seems less likely, since [[sympathetic point of view]] requires fewer intra-article clashes.  Of all [[GFDL corpus access provider]]s, Wikinfo may be the least likely to actually have this kind of problem.  If [[GetWiki]] also monitors the whole [[GFDL text corpus]] at the [[standard wiki URI]]s, and the [[wikitext standard]] supports the [[RecentChanges]] and [[DeletedPages]] log's conventions, it would be easy to have some common address other than simple [[IP number]]s across many [[large public wiki]]s.  However, a proposal for [[GetWiki]] recognition of one ID, preferably [[jabber.org]] ID, for all of [[GetWiki]] space, was censored by the particularly stupid [[GetWiki]] developers, who seem clearly only interested in their own commercial benefit.
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