Heroic trolling: Difference between revisions

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    '''Heroic trolling''' also seems to justify the enormous amount of time wasted on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s, trying to make them useful.  ''See [[Talk:trolling]] for the '''Wikiactivist''' view of this work.''
    '''Heroic trolling''' also seems to justify the enormous amount of time wasted on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s, trying to make them useful.  ''See [[Talk:trolling]] for the '''Wikiactivist''' view of this work.''


    For instance:
    Due to [[politics as usual]], views of '''heroic trolling''' tend to be wildly contradictory.  For instance:


    *engaging in witty combat until someone very stupid or doing things clearly contradicting the [[wiki mission]] is [[driven off by trolls]], e.g. the author of [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Heroic_trolling this nonsense]:
    *engaging in witty combat until someone very stupid or doing things clearly contradicting the [[wiki mission]] is [[driven off by trolls]], e.g. the author of [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Heroic_trolling this nonsense] (note ironic self-link implying this article is itself nonsense):


    ::::VERSUS
    :For instance, replacing useful articles with poorly-written, [[Consumerium:FAQ|poorly-linked]], semi-coherent rants that use an idiosyncratic vocabulary that nobody else understands.  
    :For instance, replacing useful articles with poorly-written, [[Consumerium:FAQ|poorly-linked]], semi-coherent rants that use an idiosyncratic vocabulary that nobody else understands.  
    ::Clearly they do by now, as they are able to mimic this vocabulary while attempting to mock it!  Poorly linked?  Hell if anything they're over-linked.
    ::Clearly they do by now, as they are able to mimic this vocabulary while attempting to mock it!  Poorly linked?  Hell if anything they're over-linked.
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    *simply acting as [[Lowest Troll]] when there is no one else doing so.  Some [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such responsibilities, and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via the [[sysop power structure]] which sees trolling as vandalism and their own activities, necessarily, as being never [[sysop vandalism|capable of becoming equivalent to vandalism]].  The lower the [[social status]] and the more stigma applied by [[vile mailing list|vile]] people, the more '''heroic'''.  Especially given nonsensical attacks like:
    *simply acting as [[Lowest Troll]] when there is no one else doing so.  Some [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such responsibilities, and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via the [[sysop power structure]] which sees trolling as vandalism and their own activities, necessarily, as being never [[sysop vandalism|capable of becoming equivalent to vandalism]].  The lower the [[social status]] and the more stigma applied by [[vile mailing list|vile]] people, the more '''heroic'''.  Especially given nonsensical attacks like:


    :Very little [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such "responsibilities", and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via anyone who sees through the trolls' silly masturbatory fantasies of importance.  
    ::::VERSUS
    ::Funny, it would seem [[Wikimedia]] has such fantasies, and seems also to generate the importance of both its own [[sysop power structure]] and the [[bogeyman]] they claim is its justification for existence.
     
    :Naturally, the individuals who believe in "heroic trolling" get some sort of thrill out of their electronic chest-beating and dung-flinging; why they do will forever remain a mystery.
    ::Very little [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such "responsibilities", and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via anyone who sees through the trolls' silly masturbatory fantasies of importance.  
    ::Perhaps [[magnificent trolling]] or [[suing for funding]] is the objective?
    :::Funny, it would seem [[Wikimedia]] has such fantasies, and seems also to generate the importance of both its own [[sysop power structure]] and the [[bogeyman]] they claim is its justification for existence.
    ::Naturally, the individuals who believe in "heroic trolling" get some sort of thrill out of their electronic chest-beating and dung-flinging; why they do will forever remain a mystery.
    :::Perhaps [[magnificent trolling]] or [[suing for funding]] is the objective?


    Because the Lowest Troll usually has some [[infrastructure owners trust]], however, they cannot achieve what is called [[magnificent trolling]] - this term is reserved for very despised [[trolls]] who drive off even [[GodKing]]s and discredit [[ontologist]]s, which is later seen to be a Good Thing.  The [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] seems to engage in heroic trolling and to recognize that there is some potential for magnificence in their activities to oppose [[Wikimedia]].
    Because the Lowest Troll usually has some [[infrastructure owners trust]], however, they cannot achieve what is called [[magnificent trolling]] - this term is reserved for very despised [[trolls]] who drive off even [[GodKing]]s and discredit [[ontologist]]s, which is later seen to be a Good Thing.  The [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] seems to engage in heroic trolling and to recognize that there is some potential for magnificence in their activities to oppose [[Wikimedia]].