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'''Heroic trolling''' is [[trolling]] that is recognized by most people (other than the [[sysop power structure]] of course) as doing something useful. For instance | '''Heroic trolling''' is [[trolling]] that is broadly and objectively recognized by most people (other than the [[sysop power structure]] of course) as doing something useful. That is, defying '''lifetime ban'''s and other such made-up nonsense to continue to try to improve tabloid-quality crap, e.g. those articles published by [[Wikimedia]] about [[neoclassical economics]] from [[Fox News point of view]]. | ||
'''Heroic trolling''' also seems to justify the enormous amount of time wasted on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s, trying to make them useful. ''See [[Talk:trolling]] for the '''Wikiactivist''' view of this work.'' | |||
Due to [[politics as usual]], views of '''heroic trolling''' tend to be wildly contradictory. For instance: | |||
*engaging in witty combat until someone very stupid or doing things clearly contradicting the [[wiki mission]] is [[driven off by trolls]], e.g. the author of [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Heroic_trolling this nonsense] (note ironic self-link implying this article is itself nonsense): | |||
::::VERSUS | |||
:For instance, replacing useful articles with poorly-written, [[Consumerium:FAQ|poorly-linked]], semi-coherent rants that use an idiosyncratic vocabulary that nobody else understands. | |||
::Clearly they do by now, as they are able to mimic this vocabulary while attempting to mock it! Poorly linked? Hell if anything they're over-linked. | |||
:Or, trumping up supposed issues of [[systemic bias]] and tarring anyone who disagrees with the label of "[[Wikipedia Red Faction|sysop]]" (equivalent to "witch" or "devil" in the heroic troll's vocabulary). | |||
::This doesn't even make sense, hard to troll back | |||
:Or, simply hijacking (or attempting to hijack) various [[large public wiki]]s in service of what appears to be an odd pseudo-Green agenda, or possibly just for the thrill of annoying people without any possibility of retribution - hard to say. | |||
::Given all the flailing and frothing, and attempts at retribution, it would seem there is much possibility - except OH WAIT everything said about [[Wikimedia]] is provably true, and everything said about the [[trolls]] is at least 80% false! | |||
:Heroic trolls are naturally too lazy to set up their own projects, but love to stomp all over others' - perhaps they take delight in [[m:Castle jumpers|castle jumping]]. | |||
::The [[GFDL]] does not specify that contributions are the property of those who set up the project that handles the [[group editing]], the [[trolls]] are as entitled as anyone else to edit, and to exploit the outputs of the editing. | |||
*raising and suggesting ways to fix issues of [[systemic bias]] (which sysops will always claim does not exist). | |||
*simply acting as [[Lowest Troll]] when there is no one else doing so. Some [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such responsibilities, and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via the [[sysop power structure]] which sees trolling as vandalism and their own activities, necessarily, as being never [[sysop vandalism|capable of becoming equivalent to vandalism]]. The lower the [[social status]] and the more stigma applied by [[vile mailing list|vile]] people, the more '''heroic'''. Especially given nonsensical attacks like: | |||
::::VERSUS | |||
::Very little [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such "responsibilities", and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via anyone who sees through the trolls' silly masturbatory fantasies of importance. | |||
:::Funny, it would seem [[Wikimedia]] has such fantasies, and seems also to generate the importance of both its own [[sysop power structure]] and the [[bogeyman]] they claim is its justification for existence. | |||
::Naturally, the individuals who believe in "heroic trolling" get some sort of thrill out of their electronic chest-beating and dung-flinging; why they do will forever remain a mystery. | |||
:::Perhaps [[magnificent trolling]] or [[suing for funding]] is the objective? | |||
Because the Lowest Troll usually has some [[infrastructure owners trust]], however, they cannot achieve what is called [[magnificent trolling]] - this term is reserved for very despised [[trolls]] who drive off even [[GodKing]]s and discredit [[ontologist]]s, which is later seen to be a Good Thing. The [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] seems to engage in heroic trolling and to recognize that there is some potential for magnificence in their activities to oppose [[Wikimedia]]. | |||