Talk:Vandal: Difference between revisions
though not of course ad hominem
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It's a very neat clean model to define [[vandal]]s as "the [[faction]] that is unwelcome, and against which one can [[block IP]]" once they are recognized as real actual vandals, [[troll]]s as "the [[faction]] of those that expect others to play by [[Crocker's Rules]], simply because they (the trolls) do, ignoring social conventions and scoffing at [[virtual community]] and [[community point of view]]." Perhaps one can refuse to debate with trolls and can revert their questionable edits without the protocol and conversation that one requires with those who claim to be [[some body]]? Anyway, these two default [[faction]]s seem to solve many potential problems. What is wrong with this simple model of vandals as "the unwelcome faction", trolls as "the barely tolerated faction"? | It's a very neat clean model to define [[vandal]]s as "the [[faction]] that is unwelcome, and against which one can [[block IP]]" once they are recognized as real actual vandals, [[troll]]s as "the [[faction]] of those that expect others to play by [[Crocker's Rules]], simply because they (the trolls) do, ignoring social conventions and scoffing at [[virtual community]] and [[community point of view]]." Perhaps one can refuse to debate with trolls and can revert their questionable edits without the protocol and conversation that one requires with those who claim to be [[some body]]? Though not of course the [[ad hominem revert]] and [[ad hominem delete]] that amount to [[sysop vandalism]]. | ||
Anyway, these two default [[faction]]s seem to solve many potential problems. What is wrong with this simple model of vandals as "the unwelcome faction", trolls as "the barely tolerated faction"? | |||
Probably most of what is wrong is that [[sysop]]s cannot tell the difference, and also believe that they, the sysops, do not have factional differences or blind sides. But what else is wrong? | Probably most of what is wrong is that [[sysop]]s cannot tell the difference, and also believe that they, the sysops, do not have factional differences or blind sides. But what else is wrong? | ||