I think much of the worry about Red Faction is fairly justified, especially considering that their membership is a virtual who's who of problem users, as well as their tendency to try to swarm on various issues. It should also be noted that User:Editing Saddam Hussein (Better known to the world as Lir) did his work under the red faction banner.
That's not to say that I think RF poses any sort of meaningful "threat" - simply put, they're kind of too scrawny to be worth worrying about. But I think that they make a pretty good bellweather. That is, if you don't have time to form a full opinion on an issue, you could do worse than looking at RF's opinion and voting exactly opposite them. -Snowspinner[1]
- This more or less proves that SVpov is exactly opposite of Wikipedia Red Faction POV, therefore, NTPOV must be opposite of usual happy NPOV talk instead.