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~~And a real-live-person DTD is critical to ensure that anyone who participates in an~~ '''~~extremely offensive''' production process (or~~ is ~~clearly responsible~~ for ~~spreading something like~~ [~~http~~:~~//www~~.~~disinfopedia~~.~~org/wiki~~.~~phtml?title=SARS SARS~~] ~~and contributing~~ to a [~~http://www~~.~~disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Toronto_respiratory_health_crisis major crisis]~~

'''Sorry. This is propably impossible for anyone else then [[User:Juxo|me]] and [[142.177.X.X]] to follow this rambling. But no stress, go to [[Identifying people]] to see what we've battled out so far.'''

~~:I saw your politicians on my televizor. They didn~~'~~t look worried at all. Maybe they just don~~'~~t care about you Canadians. In such a case you should elect~~ some ~~better politicians~~ the ~~next time you have the possibility~~. ~~You could also try if [[boycott]]ing Canada scares them~~. I'~~ll go and get some nice Ukranian black tea now.~~ --~~[[User:Marx|Marx]] 06:06 Apr 26, 2003 (EEST) ps. All power~~ to ~~the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Forward comrades!~~

''actually, some are still in the process of wondering what DTD means and implies...''

And a real-live-person DTD is critical to ensure that anyone who participates in an '''extremely offensive''' production process

now affecting all humans) can be excluded across all of a buyer's purchasing decisions,

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You cannot take bad people and make them good people by negotiation or force. Once a company exists its DNA is set, it can only be replaced not "fixed". Like any other lower animal...

#) Start an [[~~endorsment~~]] on it's companies providing replacement products for the evil company's products

#) Start an [[endorsement]] on it's companies providing replacement products for the evil company's products

:Here there is room for negotiation. And more complex transaction than just "don't buy", it could be a number (of cents more you pay for a tolerable product), or it could actually direct you to anothe product that is a best price/morality tradeoff. Then you are talking about more than a binary destroy/not outcome.

:: and the [[Hardware Requirements|infrastructure]] to transport their information to [[consumer]]s. Then it's up to the [[consumer]]s to [[feedback|communicate]] their feelings to producers with [[words or wallets]] or both.

:::Still requires my personal morality, idea of "evil", to be expressed in [[XML]] so that things I consider evil can turn on "green light" or "red light" on the shelf. The fact that I considered but did not buy from that seller can be communicated directly, or later with details, or never. Up to me. But I am not reading or writing an essay for every single purchase. I want to pre-load preferences and never see things that don't satisfy requirements online, and on the shelf, I want just the "OK/not" (i.e. "buyable/EVIL") signal.

:::Still requires my personal morality, idea of "evil", to be expressed in [[XML]] so that things I consider evil can turn on [[green light]] or [[red light]] on the shelf. The fact that I considered but did not buy from that seller can be communicated directly, or later with details, or never. Up to me. But I am not reading or writing an essay for every single purchase. I want to pre-load preferences and never see things that don't satisfy requirements online, and on the shelf, I want just the "OK/not" (i.e. "buyable/EVIL") signal.

::::Well. Either you have to choose some [[authority]] you [[trust]] (let me take a wild guess: Greenpeace) and let them decide on this matter or you can browse all available information and make decisions yourself.

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::I counted one full minute (60 seconds), and then came here to tell you.

:::I counted one full month, then more, but forget to tell you. Time to start linking stuff to it! It is really quite good (troll preens).

Other Trolls are also invited to attempt the above.

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-And a real-live-person DTD is critical to ensure that anyone who participates in an '''extremely offensive''' production process (or is clearly responsible for spreading something like [http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=SARS SARS] and contributing to a [http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Toronto_respiratory_health_crisis major crisis]
+'''Sorry. This is propably impossible for anyone else then [[User:Juxo|me]] and [[142.177.X.X]] to follow this rambling. But no stress, go to [[Identifying people]] to see what we've battled out so far.'''
-:I saw your politicians on my televizor. They didn't look worried at all. Maybe they just don't care about you Canadians. In such a case you should elect some better politicians the next time you have the possibility. You could also try if [[boycott]]ing Canada scares them. I'll go and get some nice Ukranian black tea now. --[[User:Marx|Marx]] 06:06 Apr 26, 2003 (EEST) ps. All power to the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Forward comrades!
+''actually, some are still in the process of wondering what DTD means and implies...''
+And a real-live-person DTD is critical to ensure that anyone who participates in an '''extremely offensive''' production process
 now affecting all humans) can be excluded across all of a buyer's purchasing decisions,
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 You cannot take bad people and make them good people by negotiation or force.  Once a company exists its DNA is set, it can only be replaced not "fixed".  Like any other lower animal...
-#) Start an [[endorsment]] on it's companies providing replacement products for the evil company's products
+#) Start an [[endorsement]] on it's companies providing replacement products for the evil company's products
 :Here there is room for negotiation.  And more complex transaction than just "don't buy", it could be a number (of cents more you pay for a tolerable product), or it could actually direct you to anothe product that is a best price/morality tradeoff.  Then you are talking about more than a binary destroy/not outcome.
 :: and the [[Hardware Requirements|infrastructure]] to transport their information to [[consumer]]s. Then it's up to the [[consumer]]s to [[feedback|communicate]] their feelings to producers with [[words or wallets]] or both.
-:::Still requires my personal morality, idea of "evil", to be expressed in [[XML]] so that things I consider evil can turn on "green light" or "red light" on the shelf.  The fact that I considered but did not buy from that seller can be communicated directly, or later with details, or never.  Up to me.  But I am not reading or writing an essay for every single purchase.  I want to pre-load preferences and never see things that don't satisfy requirements online, and on the shelf, I want just the "OK/not" (i.e. "buyable/EVIL") signal.
+:::Still requires my personal morality, idea of "evil", to be expressed in [[XML]] so that things I consider evil can turn on [[green light]] or [[red light]] on the shelf.  The fact that I considered but did not buy from that seller can be communicated directly, or later with details, or never.  Up to me.  But I am not reading or writing an essay for every single purchase.  I want to pre-load preferences and never see things that don't satisfy requirements online, and on the shelf, I want just the "OK/not" (i.e. "buyable/EVIL") signal.
 ::::Well. Either you have to choose some [[authority]] you [[trust]] (let me take a wild guess: Greenpeace) and let them decide on this matter or you can browse all available information and make decisions yourself.
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 ::I counted one full minute (60 seconds), and then came here to tell you.
+:::I counted one full month, then more, but forget to tell you.  Time to start linking stuff to it!  It is really quite good (troll preens).
 Other Trolls are also invited to attempt the above.