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| Interesting idea. This could be done by using [[w:Wikipedia:Template messages]] --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 12:33, 14 Jul 2004 (EEST) but the real question once again is that who wants to take on the burden of power of flagging some article [[approved]]/[[disapproved]]/[[should not exist]] on behalf of a faction and how will those persons be chosen or is there even a need to determine who can and who can't do such things on behalf of some [[faction]].
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| Once again we run into the age-old problem of requiring a [[power structure]] without wanting one because all new power structures are always based on earlier power structures finally leading to people flaming the [[Lowest Troll]] to be a Despot, Dictator, Fascist, [[Sysop]] or [[GodKing]] with [[God's Eye View]].
| | A '''faction tag''' is a prefix to a page that says something like: |
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| | :''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Greens]]. No other [[faction]] has commented.'' |
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| ''This stuff from [[Meta-Wikipedia]]'s list of IRC quotes seems relevant to the question of tagging for [[faction]]:''
| | The purpose of this tag is to make clear to any [[new troll]] that at least one non-troll faction must approve before something is guaranteed to stay in the same name space with non-troll work. It also tells other [[faction]]s that if they do not comment, then the decisions are likely to be made by the only/few factions that care. If, for instance, the "Reds" check out the page and make '''''no edits''''', they can then change the '''faction tag''' to: |
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| <juxho> here are the basic assumptions i'm relying on: there
| | :''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Greens]] and [[OurAnswer:Reds]]. No other [[faction]] has commented.'' |
| will be [[opinion wiki]] where strict syntax will be
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| required to get aggregate information to [[publish wiki]],
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| non-neutral-pov is the rule. there will be research
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| wiki where all non-neutral-pov stuff will get axed
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| immediatelly with a kind notice to go mess around in the
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| [[opinion wiki]]. [[publish wiki]] will import from
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| [[research wiki]] pending that someone will bet their own
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| credibility in declaring some information so certain that
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| it needs to be published. also aggregated (via SQL scripts
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| written in a not-yet-decided language) will be used to
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| automatically update the articles in [[publish wiki]] with
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| the aggregate information from [[opinion wiki]] with
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| highlights and links to the whole mess of opinions
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| * juxho gone to drink more beer
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| <nsh> I'm currently putting off over 200 individually important tasks
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| <Grunt`> nsh: how many of them involve putting off work? ;)
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| <nsh> Grunt`, most of them, but that's the beauty of it
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| <clarknova> water isn't cheap at all. it comes at a tremendous
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| hidden cost.
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| <Raul654> It falls from the sky, for free!
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| * Kurt__ goes back to planning his capitalist revolution
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| * blankfaze goes back to planning his libertarian revolution
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| * iostream goes back to planning his opensource revolution
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| * Grunt` goes back to planning his revolution revolution
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| * morwen goes back to planning her punk rock revolution
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| * AdamBishop goes back to revolving around the sun
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| | But if they '''''did any substantial edit'''' they must instead change it to: |
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| How sad that [[Juxo]] discusses this stuff with the [[groupthink]]ers, but not here first!!! Why not ask intelligent people from all these factions over here?
| | :''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Reds]]. [[OurAnswer:Greens]] approved an [[earlier version]]. No other [[faction]] has commented or edited this page.'' |
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| | The '''tag''' must be kept short, simple, standard, and include links to the earlier version or relevant comment. For instance if the [[OurAnswer:Blues]] say "this page should not exist", that must be also referred somewhere in tags. |