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* Meatball http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam
* Meatball http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam
* s23 http://wiki.s23.org/wiki.pl?WikiSpam
* s23 http://wiki.s23.org/wiki.pl?WikiSpam
* Gr�nderWiki http://www.wikiservice.at/gruender/wiki.cgi?WikiSpam (German)
* GründerWiki http://www.wikiservice.at/gruender/wiki.cgi?WikiSpam (German)
* blog chongqed.org http://chongqed.org/
* blog chongqed.org http://chongqed.org/


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::::So-called "[[spam]]" is a symptom of having no clear process to deal with the [[funded troll]].  Most [[wiki spam]] is actually subtle and consists of inappropriate references to commercial products or services including raising questions or issues about them that put one type of service in a competitive advantage to another.   
::::So-called "[[spam]]" is a symptom of having no clear process to deal with the [[funded troll]].  Most [[wiki spam]] is actually subtle and consists of inappropriate references to commercial products or services including raising questions or issues about them that put one type of service in a competitive advantage to another.   


:::::''side note'' - Obviously [[Consumerium buying signal]] is doing this honestly and openly.  But much [[Wikimedia corruption]] consists of an over-tolerance for specific corporate interests, e.g. [[Bomis]], that advance their own interests over the [[GFDL corpus]] as a whole by sponsoring [[sysop vandalism]].
:::::''side note'' - Obviously [[Consumerium buying signal]] is doing this honestly and openly.  But much [[Wikimedia corruption]] consists of an over-tolerance for specific corporate interests, e.g. Bomis, that advance their own interests over the [[GFDL corpus]] as a whole by sponsoring [[sysop vandalism]].


::::Tolerating unlimited [funded troll]]s is to permit the [[systemic bias]] of "whoever has money to pay them" into the [[community point of view]].  But to react by censoring them has of course the opposite effect to that intended: if I wish to promote [[Coca-Cola]] then I simply insert spam for [[Pepsi]] and the reactive stupidity of the [[sysop power structure]] will end up favouring my actual sponsor.  So the right reaction is one process that doesn't care who is funded and who is not, and simply determines that:
::::Tolerating unlimited [funded troll]]s is to permit the [[systemic bias]] of "whoever has money to pay them" into the [[community point of view]].  But to react by censoring them has of course the opposite effect to that intended: if I wish to promote [[Coca-Cola]] then I simply insert spam for [[Pepsi]] and the reactive stupidity of the [[sysop power structure]] will end up favouring my actual sponsor.  So the right reaction is one process that doesn't care who is funded and who is not, and simply determines that:
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:::::There are other useful tests like "is the URI linked to, presently for sale?"  If so then it's likely someone trying to boost up the [[page view]]s.
:::::There are other useful tests like "is the URI linked to, presently for sale?"  If so then it's likely someone trying to boost up the [[page view]]s.
==Solutions...how to fight spam on wikis==
I have a mediawiki site set up that just got spam links (ment to increase page rank in google), how do you fight this?
*The only solution I can think of is having what many sites use to stop automated form submission, which is have an image that contains a word that the user has to retype. This would be a slight burdon to the user, but it would make the user and the spammer on the same level, since one could delete spam just as fast as a spammer could produce it. [[wikibooks:User:RobKohr]]