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| My mama told me never to volunteer information. I don't see that strategy resulting in Consumerium or pubwan. | | My mama told me never to volunteer information. I don't see that strategy resulting in Consumerium or pubwan. |
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| ::[[Wikipedia]] proves people will contribute if they care. It doesn't prove that anything worthwhile results. And the [[sysop vandalism]] and [[sysop vigilantiism]] could be worth here if we figure out the [[Consumerium Process]] wrong. One mistake they made at Wikipedia was not figuring out how they would ever get a print version out at the end!
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| ''Please, though, we have enough abstract terminology! We don't need to talk about "virtual objects" and other such non-terms here. We need if anything to focus on the concretes, so your input at [[Consumerium User Stories]], [[best cases]], etc., is welcomed particularly.'' | | ''Please, though, we have enough abstract terminology! We don't need to talk about "virtual objects" and other such non-terms here. We need if anything to focus on the concretes, so your input at [[Consumerium User Stories]], [[best cases]], etc., is welcomed particularly.'' |
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| Sorry if I have confused. I too am confused, as I lack the vocabulary to describe the models I visualize, so I look up things. Sometimes the result is disappointing. | | Sorry if I have confused. I too am confused, as I lack the vocabulary to describe the models I visualize, so I look up things. Sometimes the result is disappointing. |
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| ::Well, we argue a lot about abstract terms here, for good reasons. We have to have an abstraction everywhere there's a choice. That's how coders think. So a [[Consumerium buying signal]] has an abstract name like "signal" since it might be [[print]], [[audio]], [[video]] displayed, compiled into a whole lot of such signals in a [[book]], or even be used to brief people walking around encouraging and helping people to buy only [[green light]] products, and etc. So there is clearly an abstract signal which shoves all these people towards one type of product and away from another - that's "[[moral purchasing power]]" and it will move them in a different direction than plain old [[advertising]]. We can justify the abstraction by the power it gives.
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| :::Of your proposed signals, I prefer most your idea of compiling a whole lot of them in a book. That practice is sometimes referred to as [[aggregation]].
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| :::I found a technical paper on this at http://www.gsm.uci.edu/~bakos/aig/aig.html, and it is also the basis of my proposal that interested persons try to de-package (informationally, at least) what I term "package deals," also known as "bundles."
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| :::<blockquote>There might be some interest in doing [[price premium]] comparisons automatically, say [[import]]ed [[transport|flying]] [[tomato]]es vs. nuclear [[greenhouse]] [[tomato]]es vs. [[renewable energy]] greenhouse [[tomato]]es</blockquote>
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| :::I have a considerable amount of interest in the [[price premuim]] concept, since bundles of premiums are in effect what is offered in what you term a [[service economy]].
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| :::<blockquote>but we really don't want to get involved into price data security issues right now.</blockquote>
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| :::I do, but that is pubwan, not consumerium. I must admit that I'm a little concerned that you see price data as a security issue. I view it as purely a [[transparency]] issue. It is my view that it is the many, not the few, who are [[stakeholder]]s in price data, in the aggregate.
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| :::Pax, Lori ([[N8chz]])
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| ::If you want the terminology, you may find [[Recyclopedia]] useful, as it has some subjects censored at [[Wikipedia]] that are essential to [[Consumerium]] and similar projects.
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