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"Today, the word troll are both verb and noun, and are applied loosely to any outsider. | |||
If you don't like someone's manners, he is a troll. If you don't like | |||
a gadfly, he is a troll. If you don't like a philosopher, he is a | |||
troll. If you don't like a inquirer, he is a troll. If you don't like | troll. If you don't like a inquirer, he is a troll. If you don't like | ||
a humorist, he is a troll. If you don't like a teacher, he is a troll. | a humorist, he is a troll. If you don't like a teacher, he is a troll. | ||
If you don't like witches, they are, well, witches and must be | If you don't like witches, they are, well, witches and must be | ||
witch-hunted." ''(see [[ad hominem]] and [[witchhunt]])''. "Thusly, from weirdo to witches, from teachers to philosophers, from gadfly to firebrand, from loner to gay, they are all trolls online at your call. Quick spun the guild of killfilers and troll-criers. Anyone who has contrariwise things to say or the manner of saying it is a troll." - [http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_ignorance.html "troll ignorance", Xah Lee] | witch-hunted." ''(see [[ad hominem]] and [[witchhunt]])''. "Thusly, from weirdo to witches, from teachers to philosophers, from gadfly to firebrand, from loner to gay, they are | ||
all trolls online at your call. Quick spun the guild of killfilers and | |||
troll-criers. Anyone who has contrariwise things to say or the manner | |||
of saying it is a troll." - [http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_ignorance.html "troll ignorance", Xah Lee] | |||
"I find that the term "troll" means pretty | "I find that the term "troll" means pretty | ||
much nothing, or it just means "somebody doing something I don't like." - [ | much nothing, or it just means "somebody doing something I don't like." - [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-May/012437.html Theresa Robinson] | ||
"...a term of abuse that is levelled both at genuinely problematic users and | "...a term of abuse that is levelled both at genuinely problematic users and | ||
users with contentious but potentially legitimate views." - [ | users with contentious but potentially legitimate views." - [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-May/012438.html Mark Richards] | ||
Obviously, under these definitions, we are all trolls from time to time, that is, we are all likely to be in some [[dispute]] or [[conflict between users]] and then if there is some [[sysop power structure]], we can be labelled "troll" and so marginalized. This is a fairly typical process, not different from authorship: | Obviously, under these definitions, we are all trolls from time to time, that is, we are all likely to be in some [[dispute]] or [[conflict between users]] and then if there is some [[sysop power structure]], we can be labelled "troll" and so marginalized. This is a fairly typical process, not different from authorship: | ||
"The author does not precede the works; he is a certain functional principle by which, in our culture, one [[limits, excludes, chooses and impedes]] the [[free circulation of fiction]]." - [[Michel Foucault]] | "The author does not precede the works; he is a certain functional principle by which, in our culture, one [[limits, excludes, chooses and impedes]] the [[free circulation of fiction]]." - [[Michel Foucault]] | ||
One view of "real [[trolls]]" is that they are those who wilfully agree with Foucault and so reject both authorship and the association of authorship with fiction. To trolls, there is no such thing as an individual "troll", so the use of the term in the singular is confined to sysops. See [[w:Internet troll|Internet troll (Wikipedia)]] for examples of their anti-troll [[propaganda]] and [[m:troll|troll (Meta-Wikipedia)]] for a troll view, in which sysops are defined as simply "less mature individual troll personalities who have not yet found a group they can comfortably be trolls in". A hierarchy with the sysop (those who require technological power over others to feel they can belong) at the entry point, and the troll as the [[culminative outcome]], is formed. If this is desirable, then, troll-friendly [[wiki]]s are the best: | One view of "real [[trolls]]" is that they are those who wilfully agree with Foucault and so reject both authorship and the association of authorship with fiction. To trolls, there is no such thing as an individual "troll", so the use of the term in the singular is confined to sysops. See [[w:Internet troll|Internet troll (Wikipedia)]] for examples of their anti-troll [[propaganda]] and [[m:troll|troll (Meta-Wikipedia)]] for a troll view, in which sysops are defined as simply "less mature individual troll personalities who have not yet found a group they can comfortably be trolls in". A hierarchy with the sysop (those who require technological power over others to feel they can belong) at the entry point, and the troll as the [[culminative outcome]], is formed. If this is desirable, then, troll-friendly [[wiki]]s are the best: |