Talk:Essential projects: Difference between revisions
copyedit and more exact definition of "pleading to authority" i.e. begging
(integrity is required in an essential project - Angela requested the block - it doesn't matter if she pulled the trigger finger or waited until a broader block was in effect - she also "enforced" it ) |
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She had ambitions to delete a vast number of articles with proposed policy and design material, and a good deal more that were directed towards the POV of a translator or simple English user struggling on his or her own to understand the English culture, not just language. For instance She deleted the [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Readings Simple English Readings] out of process although they were certainly neutral. | She had ambitions to delete a vast number of articles with proposed policy and design material, and a good deal more that were directed towards the POV of a translator or simple English user struggling on his or her own to understand the English culture, not just language. For instance She deleted the [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Readings Simple English Readings] out of process although they were certainly neutral. | ||
One can't claim something is "in process" if the new software's been in place barely a month... there's not enough people there to put ANYTHING in process - certainly not mass deletes. But anyway, her motives are clear: she could not take control of that project and mold it to her own objective (seemingly, a children's encyclopedia) without destroying that material which pointed out the glaring differences between such a child-oriented project and one that adults could use to actually comprehend | One can't claim something is "in process" if the new software's been in place barely a month... there's not enough people there to put ANYTHING in process - certainly not mass deletes. But anyway, her motives are clear: she could not take control of that project and mold it to her own objective (seemingly, a children's encyclopedia) without destroying that material which pointed out the glaring differences between such a child-oriented project (which would serve primarily English-speaking schoolchildren who are already well served by many other projects) and the original one that adults could use to actually comprehend English culture (gee, they might compete with those English speaking schoolchildren for jobs - better stop THAT!). So she begged for it to be done by others so she would not be blamed. Asking is begging when you ask someone with power they haven't been granted by the victim, to exercise it. In court one "pleads". that is the language of the [[unequal power relationship]]. | ||
In any case, she is now a sysop | In any case, she is now a sysop at the [[Simple English Wikipedia]] and hasn't UNblocked that range. So she's responsible, or rather, irresponsible, for it becoming sadly one of the [[enemy projects]] where Consumerium contributors should be warned against wasting their time. If anyone was blocked from editing legitimate material, if anything, the responsible party has a responsibility to work with it, find other champions for it, etc., to prove they were neutral on the material itself, and that it was not the material that led to the censorship. | ||
But in fact, Angela's behavior proves the opposite, and has nothing to do with her words. She is directly and provably responsible for the block, we are quite sure, and no doubt you will now get [[User_talk:Cyan]] deleted, just as you deleted the Simple talk which proved this. | But in fact, Angela's behavior proves the opposite, and has nothing to do with her words. She is directly and provably responsible for the block, we are quite sure, and no doubt you will now get [[User_talk:Cyan]] deleted, just as you deleted the Simple talk which proved this. | ||