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Since <strike>[[Special:Allcategories]]</strike> is the stupid keyword [[MediaWiki]] uses, probably we need to have page [[Allcategories]] to introduce them.
:[[Special:Categories]] is the correct special page
 
::If so, move [[All categories]] to [[categories]].
 
:::even, better, I deleted it as an unused redirect. Why you always gotta be so anti-[[MediaWiki]]?


:No such thing as [[Special:Allcategories]]. Check the links you put into articles. I'll look up the correct page that displays all categories --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:44, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)
:::It's easier to tolerate mediawiki when it does not invent stupid names that are not in the dictionary. IT is also easier to tolerate [[Lowest Troll]]s who do not do that much.


:[[Special:Categories]] is the correct special page
::The [[main namespace]] must parallel the [[Special:namespace]] for such words, else you get into horrors almost immediately.  You can't fight your underlying softwaere.
 
:::That's a valid point; I'll take notice
 
::::It is an exception to the rule about not using words that aren't in the dictionary;  So also is [[trollist]] terminology that has evolved to describe struggles for power in [[large public wiki]]s, and for which there is as yet no clear terminology except maybe Marxist rhetoric... which we should avoid.
 
::::Bottom line:  it is balanced to use [[trollist]] and [[mediawiki]] terms absolutely as the [[trolls]] and the [[sysop power structure]] have invented them, without exception - to follow one set of names and not another would be unbalanced as the trolls fight the developers' usurpation of power, and the developers provide ways to limit or attack troll activity - the only way to achieve balance is to accept BOTH the troll terms to describe [[power structure]]s and the sysop terms to describe [[wiki software]] that it's built on.  Anything else leads to unbalance and chaos... probably rampant [[sysopism]] or etc..


::If so, move [[All categories]] to [[categories]]The [[main namespace]] must parallel the [[Special:namespace]] for such words, else you get into horrors almost immediately.  You can't fight your underlying softwaere.
::::Think of it this way:  imagine you were using a lot of US military technology.  To accept their maintenance manuals and to call each nut and bolt the way they do, is wise.  But to also accept their ideology and doctrines or command just because you are using their hardware, is unwiseInstead you would do better to use the closest to exact opposite military doctrines and disciplines, if you wish to have any chance against them in battle.


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:A critical category.
:A critical category.
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''According to [[talk:link to this page]]'',
It is possible to use [[categories]] like:
*defines or challenges the mission of [[Consumerium:itself]]
*helps [[Consumerium itself]] [[develop:itself]]
*helps [[Consumerium itself]] [[research:itself]]
*helps [[Consumerium itself]] [[publish:itself]]
But adding such categories is actually messy, and it means paages will be very often in multiple categories.  Tags work better than categories for a great many things includingt this I think.
Also if you shift off [[mediawiki]] your [[categories]] won't necessarily stick, while the links will.  For instance to use [[tiddlywiki]] for [[Publish:namespace]] is fine if you did it with links, but not if you did it with categories.
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