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''Please see the [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&diff=0&oldid=1495 The Diff from the last version] or [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&oldid=1495 The original article] for a | ''There is little consensus on this issue yet, and some terms are [[factionally defined]]. See [[what to accept as fact]] for more on the basic questions and how they affect [[moral purchasing potential]].'' | ||
[[Trolls]] argue: | |||
:''[[Research Wiki]] is the present name proposed for this function, recognizing that there is some overlap between the R&D wiki function and the long-term need to track trends in terminology, [[faction]] debates and discovery of what is actually considered [[fair]] for the [[Publish Wiki]] in the alternative naming scheme) versus what is "subjective".'' | |||
[[Lawyers]] argue: | |||
:''Please see the [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&diff=0&oldid=1495 The Diff from the last version] or [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&oldid=1495 The original article] for a simpler view before horde(s) of [[trolls]] edited. Or see [[best cases]] for how the opinion wiki should enable the whole project.'' | |||
''[[Consumerium:intermediate page]] has the stable subset of what is below.'' | |||
==Background== | ==Background== | ||
Some see opinions as most objectively expressed in a "market" form... but [[The Consumerium Exchange]], some complain, is a misleading name for this facility, which is about '''expressing opinions and support or the lack of for the expressed opinions'''. It does not translate well at all - hence | People express opinions in all sorts of ways, and when they really believe in those opinions they are likely to give them names like "research" to indicate they really are willing to [[bet]] some reputation or [[credibility]] on them. Other ways to express opinions are to [[vote]] or to [[hurt]] someone or [[sabotage]] something. All of these are ways to express opinions, but if we all use the hurting or sabotaging method, we will not have a civilization long. So it's always very important to figure out how we can [[bet]] or [[vote]] on something, or at best quietly [[sabotage]] something bad without pretending we are all morally right to do so, to avoid having to [[hurt]] any body. | ||
Political ideologies tend to say there is one "best way" to do this. Some, sometimes called "[[w:right-wing politics|right-wing]]" see opinions as most objectively expressed in a "market" form... but [[The Consumerium Exchange]], some complain, is a misleading name for this facility, which is about '''expressing opinions and support or the lack of for the expressed opinions'''. It does not translate well at all - hence we use '''opinion''' for now, and maybe consider that '''opinion''' can be seen as '''research''' by those who really believe in the premises that the original researcher has had. | |||
Whatever we call it, it will be a [[large public wiki]] with the special problems of that type of communication. Including choosing a good name. | |||
As mentioned in [[Campaign#Campaign Management|Campaign]], campaign management may be best organized by wiki. This would be simple and straightforward for the campaigners. It would require only a low-end browser to contribute to the [[semantic web of views]]. No fixed email address would be required. Many client software variations might work. | As mentioned in [[Campaign#Campaign Management|Campaign]], campaign management may be best organized by wiki. This would be simple and straightforward for the campaigners. It would require only a low-end browser to contribute to the [[semantic web of views]]. No fixed email address would be required. Many client software variations might work. | ||
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*[[Consumerium Troll|Troll]] - a group of edits (not users) that Users think all represent some single point of view, maybe one person, or many co-operating, and which anyone can claim to be adding to - a sort of mask or faction. So there might be no actual User: named "Communist" but there might be a "Troll" by that name, and "Communist" opinions could be classified as part of that virtual personality, no matter who wrote them. Like a role account only what belongs in it is defined after the fact. They can't vote, nor bet - but they can have all the opinions they want. The main use of this is to find out if any Users share so much style or opinion with a known troll profile, that they are probably the same person with many votes or accounts. | *[[Consumerium Troll|Troll]] - a group of edits (not users) that Users think all represent some single point of view, maybe one person, or many co-operating, and which anyone can claim to be adding to - a sort of mask or faction. So there might be no actual User: named "Communist" but there might be a "Troll" by that name, and "Communist" opinions could be classified as part of that virtual personality, no matter who wrote them. Like a role account only what belongs in it is defined after the fact. They can't vote, nor bet - but they can have all the opinions they want. The main use of this is to find out if any Users share so much style or opinion with a known troll profile, that they are probably the same person with many votes or accounts. | ||
*[[Consumerium Group|Group]] - must correspond to a real-world registered entity | *[[Consumerium Group|Group]] - must correspond to a real-world registered entity | ||
*[[Consumerium | *[[Consumerium:faction]] - must not conflict with names of real-world entities. Consists of [[Consumerium User|User]]s and [[Consumerium Group|Group]]s and other [[Consumerium:faction]]s - these are for collective and alleged identity | ||
*[[ | *[[Campaign]] - preferably descriptive names, and preferably recognizable to people doing real world campaigns say in [[NGO]]s. | ||
==Set articles and permissions== | ==Set articles and permissions== | ||
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*Please note that the outline contains mainly only those articles and subarticles required to form hierarchies, not much on actual content | *Please note that the outline contains mainly only those articles and subarticles required to form hierarchies, not much on actual content | ||
*Looks like we are going to have [[The Consumerium Exchange|Three classes of votes]]: | *Looks like we are going to have [[The Consumerium Exchange|Three classes of votes]]: | ||
**WikiVote | **[[WikiVote]] | ||
**Direct Vote | **[[Direct Vote]] | ||
**Indirect Vote | **[[Indirect Vote]] | ||
*Duplicate WikiVotes can occour by accident, by purpose and apparently by design eg. [[Group:Association X National Section]] belongs to [[Group:Association X International]] | *Duplicate WikiVotes can occour by accident, by purpose and apparently by design eg. [[Group:Association X National Section]] belongs to [[Group:Association X International]] | ||
**There must be rules on which of the votes gets excluded in this case. | **There must be rules on which of the votes gets excluded in this case. | ||