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| ''There is little consensus on this issue yet, and some terms are [[factionally defined]]. See [[what to accept as fact]] for more on the basic questions and how they affect [[moral purchasing potential]].''
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| [[Trolls]] argue:
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| :''[[Research Wiki]] is the present name proposed for this function, recognizing that there is some overlap between the R&D wiki function and the long-term need to track trends in terminology, [[faction]] debates and discovery of what is actually considered [[fair]] for the [[Publish Wiki]] in the alternative naming scheme) versus what is "subjective".''
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| [[Lawyers]] argue:
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| :''Please see the [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&diff=0&oldid=1495 The Diff from the last version] or [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Opinion_Wiki&oldid=1495 The original article] for a simpler view before horde(s) of [[trolls]] edited. Or see [[best cases]] for how the opinion wiki should enable the whole project.''
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| ''[[Consumerium:intermediate page]] has the stable subset of what is below.''
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| ==Background== | | ==Background== |
| | There has been some complaints about [[The Consumerium Exchange]] being a misleading name for the facility, which is about '''experessing opinions and support or the lack of for the expressed opinions''' and I have noted this problem that it does not translate well at all hence the new working title and design approach |
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| People express opinions in all sorts of ways, and when they really believe in those opinions they are likely to give them names like "research" to indicate they really are willing to [[bet]] some reputation or [[credibility]] on them. Other ways to express opinions are to [[vote]] or to [[hurt]] someone or [[sabotage]] something. All of these are ways to express opinions, but if we all use the hurting or sabotaging method, we will not have a civilization long. So it's always very important to figure out how we can [[bet]] or [[vote]] on something, or at best quietly [[sabotage]] something bad without pretending we are all morally right to do so, to avoid having to [[hurt]] any body.
| | As mentioned in [[Campaign#Campaign Management|Campaign]] there is an initial thought of campaign management by wiki which would be simple and straightforward for the campaigners. |
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| Political ideologies tend to say there is one "best way" to do this. Some, sometimes called "[[w:right-wing politics|right-wing]]" see opinions as most objectively expressed in a "market" form... but [[The Consumerium Exchange]], some complain, is a misleading name for this facility, which is about '''expressing opinions and support or the lack of for the expressed opinions'''. It does not translate well at all - hence we use '''opinion''' for now, and maybe consider that '''opinion''' can be seen as '''research''' by those who really believe in the premises that the original researcher has had.
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| Whatever we call it, it will be a [[large public wiki]] with the special problems of that type of communication. Including choosing a good name.
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| As mentioned in [[Campaign#Campaign Management|Campaign]], campaign management may be best organized by wiki. This would be simple and straightforward for the campaigners. It would require only a low-end browser to contribute to the [[semantic web of views]]. No fixed email address would be required. Many client software variations might work. | |
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| We can extend the use of wiki beyond campaign management so that most of the user interface to The Consumerium Exchange would be wiki based - with [[edit]], [[vote]] and [[bet]] actions supported.
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| ''Note: to [[bet]] might only be to bet on whether an edit will stand, or whether a possibly-unnecessary vote will go a certain way. Thus annoyance votes and annoyance edits can be heavily discouraged - and those who know what's popular, or true, will be rewarded for putting money where their mouth is.''
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| | Thinking about this approach I came to the realisation that why not extend the use of wiki beyond just campaign management so that majority of the user interface to The Consumerium Exchange would be wiki based. |
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| ==Needs Statement of Opinion Wiki== | | ==Basic Outline of Opinion Wiki== |
| A [[needs statement]] outlines requests that may or may not be in the [[requirements list]]. Not every "need" is a "requirement", but all needs should be discussed, and associated with [[types of users]].
| | Here goes an initial outline of how it would work: |
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| ==Namespaces== | | ==Namespaces== |
| *[[Consumerium User|User]] - no offending usernames please | | *User - no offending usernames please |
| *[[Consumerium Troll|Troll]] - a group of edits (not users) that Users think all represent some single point of view, maybe one person, or many co-operating, and which anyone can claim to be adding to - a sort of mask or faction. So there might be no actual User: named "Communist" but there might be a "Troll" by that name, and "Communist" opinions could be classified as part of that virtual personality, no matter who wrote them. Like a role account only what belongs in it is defined after the fact. They can't vote, nor bet - but they can have all the opinions they want. The main use of this is to find out if any Users share so much style or opinion with a known troll profile, that they are probably the same person with many votes or accounts. | | *Group - must correspond to a real-world registered entity |
| *[[Consumerium Group|Group]] - must correspond to a real-world registered entity
| | *VirtualGroup - must not conflict with names of real-world entities |
| *[[Consumerium:faction]] - must not conflict with names of real-world entities. Consists of [[Consumerium User|User]]s and [[Consumerium Group|Group]]s and other [[Consumerium:faction]]s - these are for collective and alleged identity | | *Campaign - preferably descriptive names |
| *[[Campaign]] - preferably descriptive names, and preferably recognizable to people doing real world campaigns say in [[NGO]]s. | |
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| ==Set articles and permissions== | | ==Set articles and permissions== |
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| No subarticles should be created yet, since there is no agreement yet on any of the above. Edit what's below to improve it.
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| ===User=== | | ===User=== |
| *User/Keys - If a person wishes to sign articles s/he should put keys used here. Protection by social contract and page protection if required (optional) | | *User/Keys - If a person wishes to sign articles s/he should put keys used here. Protection by social contract and page protection if required (optional) |
| *User/Trolls - comments others have considered bogus or silly or classified as having come from some ideology or attitude - this is helpful mostly to the user who can see what propaganda others think they are spouting. If EVERYTHING a User says is a troll, they might be a bot, or paid to spread some opinion, or really trollish. | | *User/MyVotes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign |
| *User/Votes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign
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| *User/Bets - every link from here to betting pages is added up.
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| ===Group=== | | ===Group=== |
| *Group - creation of group pages only by registering within the Vault. | | *Group - creation of group pages only by registering within the Vault. |
| *Group/Keys - keys used for signing articles (optional) | | *Group/Keys - keys used for signing articles (optional) |
| *Group/Votes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign | | *Group/OurVotes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign |
| *Group/Bets - if the real world group has got some financial interest in something, and it affects consumerium opinions, it should be declared here for transparency. That doesn't mean it *must* be revealed, but those that do reveal are more ethical.
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| *Group/Members - All Group articles editable by those Users listed in this article. | | *Group/Members - All Group articles editable by those Users listed in this article. |
| *Group/Trolls - trollish statements and propaganda that the Group agrees with - say those that come from its literature. This makes it easy to see which Users are just repeating things that some Group says, and if any Trolls are repeating the phrases of some Group.
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| *Group/Affiliations - Listing affiliations with Companies and other organisations | | *Group/Affiliations - Listing affiliations with Companies and other organisations |
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| *VirtualGroup - can be creted freely by any User, but will be disabled if the name is misleading or offending | | *VirtualGroup - can be creted freely by any User, but will be disabled if the name is misleading or offending |
| *VirtualGroup/Keys - keys used for signing articles (optional) | | *VirtualGroup/Keys - keys used for signing articles (optional) |
| *VirtualGroup/Votes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign | | *VirtualGroup/OurVotes - every link from here to voting pages will be counted as a vote for the campaign |
| *VirtualGroup/Bets - any shared bets that several Users have made together through the interface; No need to declare offline bets.
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| *VirtualGroup/Trolls - any trollishness that appears to emerge from more than one User or IP
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| *VirtualGroup/Members - All VirtualGroup articles editable by those Users listed in this article. Users may not remove other users from this, only themselves. When the last User removes her/himself from the page the VirtualGroup ceases to exist. All links to Groups and other VirtualGroups from this page will be recursively followed to find out the total amount of members, real and virtual respectively. Possible links are: | | *VirtualGroup/Members - All VirtualGroup articles editable by those Users listed in this article. Users may not remove other users from this, only themselves. When the last User removes her/himself from the page the VirtualGroup ceases to exist. All links to Groups and other VirtualGroups from this page will be recursively followed to find out the total amount of members, real and virtual respectively. Possible links are: |
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| *Campaign/Members - The campaign is editable by these. Recurse to find total amount of members | | *Campaign/Members - The campaign is editable by these. Recurse to find total amount of members |
| *Campaign/Vote - Used as a link-to target from | | *Campaign/Vote - Used as a link-to target from |
| **UserName/Votes | | **UserName/MyVotes |
| **GroupName/Votes | | **GroupName/OurVotes |
| **VirtualGroupName/Votes | | **WikiGroupName/OurVotes |
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| Trolls do not bet or vote, they only have opinions, so there are no links from campaigns.
| | ==More on Opinion Wiki== |
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| ==[[w:George W. Bush|More on]] Opinion Wiki== | |
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| *From these bits of information directed, weighed networks describing distribution of WikiVotes and Campaigners can be formed and the directed networks will be used to calculate indices that can be studied | | *From these bits of information directed, weighed networks describing distribution of WikiVotes and Campaigners can be formed and the directed networks will be used to calculate indices that can be studied |
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| *Please note that the outline contains mainly only those articles and subarticles required to form hierarchies, not much on actual content | | *Please note that the outline contains mainly only those articles and subarticles required to form hierarchies, not much on actual content |
| *Looks like we are going to have [[The Consumerium Exchange|Three classes of votes]]: | | *Looks like we are going to have [[The Consumerium Exchange|Three classes of votes]]: |
| **[[WikiVote]] | | **WikiVote |
| **[[Direct Vote]] | | **Direct Vote |
| **[[Indirect Vote]] | | **Indirect Vote |
| *Duplicate WikiVotes can occour by accident, by purpose and apparently by design eg. [[Group:Association X National Section]] belongs to [[Group:Association X International]] | | *Duplicate WikiVotes can occour by accident, by purpose and apparently by design eg. [[Group:Association X National Section]] belongs to [[Group:Association X International]] |
| **There must be rules on which of the votes gets excluded in this case. | | **There must be rules on which of the votes gets excluded in this case. |
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| Note that there could be multiple levels of (un)security available for committing changes to Opinion Wiki: | | Note that there could be multiple levels of (un)security available for committing changes to Opinion Wiki: |
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| #Anonymous access - if allowed, there must certainly be ways to spot and connect various edits by [[Consumerium Troll]]s. | | #Anonymous access |
| #Access protected by password over HTTP | | #Access protected by password over HTTP |
| #Access protected by password over HTTPS | | #Access protected by password over HTTPS |
| #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with self claimed keys - higher overhead but still possible for [[funded troll]]s to use to manipulate the outcomes | | #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with self claimed keys |
| #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with keys verified by a third party or Consumerium Vault - much harder to abuse, but so high overhead that it's also hard to use legitimately | | #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with keys verified by a third party or Consumerium Vault |
| #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with keys verified by third parties and Consumerium Vault | | #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with keys verified by third parties and Consumerium Vault |
| #Access protected by GnuPG signatures on save with keys verified by third parties and Consumerium Vault including [[biometrics]] to actually track every edit or vote to a real body of a living person - no trolls allowed! But that person still could be a [[funded user]] getting paid to distort opinions a certain way.
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| '''See also:''' | | '''See also:''' |
| * [[Content Wiki]] | | * [[Content Wiki]] |