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See [[w:Wikipedia:identity dispute]] for what this is. It's a "straw man" policy suggestion on something that will probably be even more important at Consumerium, where there is even less agreement on how groups and interests ought to be defined, and more at stake. | See [[w:Wikipedia:identity dispute]] for what this is. It's a "straw man" policy suggestion on something that will probably be even more important at Consumerium, where there is even less agreement on how groups and interests ought to be defined, and more at stake. | ||
This is generally a subset of a [[political dispute]]. Some ideologies claim that politics itself | This is generally a subset of a [[political dispute]]. Some ideologies claim that identity and politics itself are just forms of [[neutrality dispute]]. | ||
[[Trolls]] consider this very stupid, and it is the reason for the many problems of such projects as [[Wikipedia]], which accept and promote such ideologies, and attract believers in them, who eventually degrade and destroy the capacity of the project itself to deal with political dispute, and promote noxious personalities. Trolls promote the [[political virtues]] instead, and reject identity that is not [[factionally defined]]. | |||
A more rational view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships. See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates. The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]]. The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]]. There are reasons to avoid either extreme. It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing problem]]s determine who participates. | A more rational view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships. See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates. The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]]. The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]]. There are reasons to avoid either extreme. It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing problem]]s determine who participates. | ||