False and unsubstantiated claims: Difference between revisions

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False and unsubstantiated claims appear often on the Wikipedia mailing list and other forums devoted to maintaining a clique in a position of power. Power grabs are enabled by the tolerance of such claims without any means or standards to examine them, e.g. putting them in TIPAESA form, and restricting or preventing anyone from deleting or modifying them until they are answered to.

Some large public wikis have a single GodKing to declare what constitute false or unsubstantiated. This person is obviously in a conflict of interest regarding such claims made about his own utterances or claims. Accordingly, corruption, e.g. Wikimedia corruption, is the only possible result of failing to have a single pipeline to resolve claims or issues that does not involve the person or people who are actually talked about.

Of all such claims, those regarding alleged and collective identity are the most common, and hardest to control, given the mutability of identity on the Internet.

The problem with tolerating unlimited claims is that it exposes one to:

use of this phrase to intimidate

It is also common to label fully substantiated and easily documented claims as "false" or "unsubstantiated" as a means of intimidating those who make them. This tactic is seen for instance on both sides of troll-sysop struggle and has marked the GFDL corpus debate to a remarkable degree: reducing the entire project to tabloid journalism at best, libel pit at worst, and rendering Wikipedia useless as reference for journalistic purposes.

Consumerium Services have been pressured to label Wikimedia corruption charges as false and unsubstantiated. Most or all of which of these claims were fully substantiated and documented at one time, but subject to continous vandalism by a clique determed to obscure that very fact. Over time, the influence of such cliques can be toxic and prevent any serious debate about policies.

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 '''False and unsubstantiated claims''' appear often on the [[Wikipedia mailing list]] and other forums devoted to maintaining a [[clique]] in a position of power.  [[Power grab]]s are enabled by the tolerance of such claims without any means or standards to examine them, e.g. putting them in [[TIPAESA]] form, and restricting or preventing anyone from deleting or modifying them until they are answered to.
-Some [[large public wiki]]s have a single [[GodKing]] to declare what constitute '''false''' or ''unsubstantiated'''.  This person is obviously in a [[conflict of interest]] regarding such claims made about his own utterances or claims.  Accordingly, [[corruption]], e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], is the only possible result of failing to have a single pipeline to resolve claims or issues that does not involve the person or people who are actually talked about.
+Some [[large public wiki]]s have a single [[GodKing]] to declare what constitute '''false''' or '''unsubstantiated'''.  This person is obviously in a [[conflict of interest]] regarding such claims made about his own utterances or claims.  Accordingly, [[corruption]], e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], is the only possible result of failing to have a [[Consumerium Process|single pipeline to resolve claims or issues]] that does not involve the person or people who are actually talked about.
-Of all such claims, those regarding [[alleged or collective identity]] are the most common, and hardest to control, given the mutability of [[identity on the Internet]].
+Of all such claims, those regarding [[alleged and collective identity]] are the most common, and hardest to control, given the mutability of [[identity on the Internet]].
 The problem with tolerating unlimited '''claims''' is that it exposes one to: