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| The entire [[m:]] Meta-Wikipedia is devoted to Talk about Wikipedia. Please don't do it here!
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| Only issue worth noting is who we don't want coming over here. It's now getting quite easy to identify who the ideologically motivated censors are:
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| [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-March/011420.html This account] correctly quotes the [[sysop vandalism|sysop-vandal]] [[w:User:Pakaran]] and the [[w:racism|overt racist]] [[w:User:RickK]] as conspiring to attack and remove views from a contrary POV, that of [[Reds]].
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| According to that account, "The comments by User:Pakaran
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| are merely an example of a broader, overarching pattern; the abuse of users
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| who hold unpopular beliefs is practically out in the open now and out of
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| control." [[w:User:Jimbo_Wales]] calls this [[sysop vigilantiism]], though he himself admits an [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-March/011439.html anti-communist viewpoint] probably due to being American and brainwashed by racists and fascists in primary school.
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| Sokolov's list of racists and fascists engaged in this behaviour include[http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-March/011443.html "Pakaran, RickK, Adam Carr, PMA, Very Verily, Tim Starling, and Robert Merkel"]. Of these [[w:User:Adam_Carr]] seems most egregious to Sokolov/172. Interesting how this list compares to those listed in the various [[AWR]]. It could not be a coincidence that on a list of ONLY SEVEN USERS, that THREE OF THEM would be also those engaged in ideological censorship earlier, against 142 and others - see [[142.X.X.X/Tim_Starling]] for instance, where Starling basically admits his whole motivation for adding range blocks to [[mediawiki]] is ideological.
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| There's an interesting discussion on the [http://www.webbyawards.com/peoplesvoice/index.html Webby - People's Voice] message boards about Wikipedia's nominations (under the "Community" and "Best practices" categories). It is partly referenced in a [[w:Wikipedia:Village pump]] thread (subject: Integrity of Wikipedia as an Encyclopedia).
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| If you want to view or contribute comments on the Webby Awards website, go there, log in and look under "community" and "best practices" for comments.
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| :"The day will come when I will put out the call for funds to distribute paper copies of Wikipedia to every child in every third world country in the world. This, too, is our mission...to achieve those goals will require us to become famous, to become a household name to every single person on the planet. Why? Because to distribute our work to everyone in the world is going to cost an enormous ton of money," - Wales.
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| :This would be quite dangerous for this planet, given [[w:GDP]] and other far right wing entries, the unbalanced "community" (notice that a group of Jews recently decided the Wikipedia article "Jew" was so favourable to them that they wanted it as the number one hit on google, and arranged that via googlewash) and the deliberate censorship of even mildly green entries.
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| :I'd say Wales must be stopped, now, before he and his clique really do rule the encyclopedia world.
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