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*[[Critical point of view]] - including disapproval of the concept itself, and claims that it does not exist; | *[[Critical point of view]] - including disapproval of the concept itself, and claims that it does not exist; | ||
[[Trolls]] argue that '''non-neutral point of view''' itself is merely an invented mechanism used by others to define them as "wrong" - | This "sympathetic versus critical" problem is not entirely solved by [[sysopism]] (claiming "neutrality" and claiming that whoever has [[IP block]] power, knows what it is). [[Trolls]] argue that '''non-neutral point of view''' itself is merely an invented mechanism used by others to define them as "wrong" - a [[God's Eye View]]. | ||
Those who dispute the ability of anyone to tell "sympathetic" from "critical" or "opinion" from "research", would prefer that this article be from a very critical POV, and consider its title to be from a: | |||
*[[Sysop Vandal point of view]] - defined by [[trollist]]s as "[[technological escalation|we have more advanced weapons than thou]] point of view"; This will be claimed by [[trollist]]s to prevail in [[Publish Wiki]] as long as there is such a thing as "[[Opinion Wiki]]" which requires vandalism ([[sysop vandalism|someone deciding things are opinions and moving them there]]) and as long as there is more power given to old trolls than to the: | *[[Sysop Vandal point of view]] - defined by [[trollist]]s as "[[technological escalation|we have more advanced weapons than thou]] point of view"; This will be claimed by [[trollist]]s to prevail in [[Publish Wiki]] as long as there is such a thing as "[[Opinion Wiki]]" which requires vandalism ([[sysop vandalism|someone deciding things are opinions and moving them there]]) and as long as there is more power given to old trolls than to the: | ||
*[[New Troll point of view]] - which claims there is no [[Consumerium:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]]; [[NTPOV]] will likely be attempted to guide us in governing [[Research Wiki]] in order to avoid getting anyone's leg bitten off (ie. being [[troll-friendly]]) | *[[New Troll point of view]] - which claims there is no [[Consumerium:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]]; [[NTPOV]] will likely be attempted to guide us in governing [[Research Wiki]] in order to avoid getting anyone's leg bitten off (ie. being [[troll-friendly]]) | ||
''The troll rhetoric seems to arise naturally in reaction to [[sysopism]] and will probably flare up intensely any time someone makes an assumption of power.'' | ''The troll rhetoric seems to arise naturally in reaction to [[sysopism]] and will probably flare up intensely any time someone makes an assumption of power. The power-driven model has led only to years of conflict at [[Wikipedia]] and has only moved to other levels by banning [[dissident]]s like the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]].'' | ||
=== faction-driven === | === faction-driven === | ||