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It is an experimental wiki that may become a [[large public wiki]].  Like [[Consumerium]] it is using the [[mediawiki]] software in its R&D phase - and also like Consumerium it intends to create tools to work with material that is in some [[Wikitext standard]] prototype format with well developed multi-language conventions, most likely based on that now used in [[Wikipedia]].
It is an experimental wiki that may become a [[large public wiki]].  Like [[Consumerium]] it is using the [[mediawiki]] software in its R&D phase - and also like Consumerium it intends to create tools to work with material that is in some [[Wikitext standard]] prototype format with well developed multi-language conventions, most likely based on that now used in [[Wikipedia]].


It is very clear that they intend NOT to use mediawiki or perl exclusively, or maybe at all, in the long term - they have defined an [http://www.metaweb.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Metaweb:intermediate_page intermediate page format] which is explicitly designed for their own custom software to suck in and generate a [[semantic web]].  Which is something the [[Content Wiki]] (a semantic web itself, segmented probably by [[faction]]) must be able to do to the [[Opinion Wiki]] as a pre-step to affecting the [[Consumerium buying signal]].  So their ultimate solution might also be ours, if we can co-operate with them early enough and use the same tools base.  A first step to this might be to simply adopt a close enough variation of their intermediate page format (with different section titles probably, we don't want a "Stephensonia" section) that we can use their tools here with few adaptations.
It is very clear that they intend NOT to use mediawiki or perl exclusively, or maybe at all, in the long term - they have defined an [http://www.metaweb.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Metaweb:intermediate_page intermediate page format] which is explicitly designed for their own custom software to suck in and generate a [[semantic web]].  Which is something the [[Signal Wiki]] (a semantic web itself, segmented maybe by [[faction]]) must be able to do to the [[Research Wiki]] as a pre-step to affecting the [[Consumerium buying signal]].  So their ultimate solution might also be ours, if we can co-operate with them early enough and use the same tools base.   


They are also seemingly taking the lead in thinking about how Wikitext will be translated into an XML-like semantic web, so an [[XML dump]] might not be page by page and strictly marked up for style, but, might actually be whole topic areas at once, or all [[factionally defined]] terms unique to one [[faction]] in our application.  Being able perhaps to re-integrate the semantic web after multiple parties have edited the different factional sections independently...
A first step to this might be to simply adopt a close enough variation of their intermediate page format (with different section titles probably, we don't want a "Stephensonia" section) that we can use their tools here with few adaptations.  ''See [[Consumerium:intermediate page format]] for the abstract, and [[Consumerium:intermediate page]] for lists of types of such pages here.''


It is not clear how they plan to deal with licensing, but they are presently [[GFDL]] and seem to be quite aware that [[mediawiki]] isn't capable of really implementing this license, nor supporting advanced GFDL capabilities like [[Invariant Section]]s that would be required for any kind of certification or validation of article versions.   
They are also seemingly taking the lead in thinking about how [[wikitext standard|raw wikitext]] and [[ConsuML]] will be translated into an XML-like semantic web.  An [[XML dump]] might not be page by page and strictly marked up for style, but, might actually be whole topic areas at once, or all [[factionally defined]] terms unique to one [[faction]] in our application.  Being able perhaps to re-integrate the semantic web after multiple parties have edited the different factional sections independently...  all up for grabs.  Again, we should follow their lead, as this is what they plan to do in general.
 
It is not clear how they plan to deal with licensing, but they are presently [[GFDL]] and seem to be quite aware that [[mediawiki]] isn't capable of really implementing this license, nor supporting advanced GFDL capabilities like [[Invariant Section]]s that would be required for any kind of certification or validation of article versions.  [[GetWiki]] may be better, but it's not clear.


The project includes some major brains like [[Danny Hillis]] and [[Neal Stephenson]], and seems [[troll friendly]] enough at the moment to make it possible to at least introduce the correct bridging ideas into both projects.
The project includes some major brains like [[Danny Hillis]] and [[Neal Stephenson]], and seems [[troll friendly]] enough at the moment to make it possible to at least introduce the correct bridging ideas into both projects.
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