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Consider:  would you allow someone running a political meeting to literally gag someone, and physically throw them out of the building, using some technology that no one else in the room had, with no particular process or criteria that the rest of the room agreed with completely?  If you did, would you expect that conversation in that room would thereafter reflect people's real views or tend towards [[groupthink]] just to end the pointless (obviously some things have already been decided) meeting sooner or avoid further exclusion?  Yet this is the exact behaviour that almost all [[sysop]]s apply when they are given power.
Consider:  would you allow someone running a political meeting to literally gag someone, and physically throw them out of the building, using some technology that no one else in the room had, with no particular process or criteria that the rest of the room agreed with completely?  If you did, would you expect that conversation in that room would thereafter reflect people's real views or tend towards [[groupthink]] just to end the pointless (obviously some things have already been decided) meeting sooner or avoid further exclusion?  Yet this is the exact behaviour that almost all [[sysop]]s apply when they are given power.
<i>This is also the exact behavoir of most meetings in the real world, there are just different socially accepted forms of enforcement.
The reason the above analogy is not applicable to an online forum such as a wiki is that there is no physical room online, you can't see the people involved, and you have no direct means of communicating with them either.
In the real world, any group of two or three people have the power to physically throw someone out of a building, as a result, people are generally more civil, and more apt to follow the established rules. People can directly comminicate, fight, argue, and be asked to leave.
Online it is a much more metaphysical experience, we are all imagining a place, this wiki, and we can push information into it with the power of our thought assisted by some technology. People are more apt to be disagreeable and rude because it is easier to do so and there is less consequence.
If people behaved in the real world how trolls behave online, they would be gagged and thrown out.
This is not to say the current sysop system is not without it's flaws, it simply remains to develop a better system.</i>


See [[m:Internet Authority Disease]], [[m:power structure]] and [[m:Wikipedia sociology]] for more on this problem and how it plays out on [[Wikipedia]].
See [[m:Internet Authority Disease]], [[m:power structure]] and [[m:Wikipedia sociology]] for more on this problem and how it plays out on [[Wikipedia]].
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