Talk:One wiki model: Difference between revisions
Wikipedia's "ban" is nothing, it's nonsense, the whole idea is stupid
(no such thing as a "ban" in a wiki - a "ban" is a thing done by the governance org, and it relies on all kinds of information they claim to have but do not have) |
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::That is not relevant because it is an [[ontological distinction]] - it relies on [[alleged and collective identity]] and bizarre claims like sysops claiming to know the intent of people they call "[[trolls]]" and so on, and "who is writing that" and so forth. It's nonsense. We are talking here only about [[operational distinction]]s like the actual [[block IP]] operation. | ::That is not relevant because it is an [[ontological distinction]] - it relies on [[alleged and collective identity]] and bizarre claims like sysops claiming to know the intent of people they call "[[trolls]]" and so on, and "who is writing that" and so forth. It's nonsense. We are talking here only about [[operational distinction]]s like the actual [[block IP]] operation. | ||
::In other words, there's no such thing as a "ban" in a wiki - a "ban" is a thing done by the governance org, and it relies on all kinds of information they claim to have but do not have, and which have nothing to do with the wiki or the [[one wiki model]]. | ::In other words, there's no such thing as a "ban" in a wiki - a "ban" is a thing done by the governance org, and it relies on all kinds of information they claim to have but do not have, and which have nothing to do with the wiki or the [[one wiki model]]. So if there is talk about a "ban" then it will be in an article about [[lawyer]]s and [[libel suit]]s and the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], not an article about sysops and wikis. | ||
::Beyond that, it's mostly just total nonsense. Any of us [[142.177.X.X]] [[trolls]] can edit [[Wikipedia]] right now, and no one really cares. They don't care, because trying to care and engaging in [[wiki witchhunt]] against us for our EXCELLENT AND NEARLY PERFECT work, which over time has STUCK NEARLY 99% OF THE TIME EVEN WHEN TARGETTED for [[sysop vandalism]], is stupid, when there are such as [[SOLLOG]] out there. Now that they realize how bad things can really get, they no longer try to nitpick us. Next they must realize that they need us as allies, that perhaps [[sysops are trolls]], and must ally with trolls, because only trolls know the [[trolling techniques]] well enough to respond to them and [[de-escalate]] conflicts. | |||