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*the sophisticated vandal who inserts credible-reading nonsense like false facts that seem almost right - if this is nonrandom then they may be a [[POV warrior]] or [[funded troll]] which is not vandalism but a genuine conflict on what sources to trust

*the [[sysop vandal]] who exercises [[technological escalation]] and trust gained through doing routine tasks, to apply their poor editorial judgement, e.g. to [[ad hominem delete]] or [[IP block]] those whose philosophies aren't compatible with infinite tolerance of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]], i.e. that those who have technological power, are morally superior by definition.

=== Vandals as a [[faction]] ===

The '''Vandals''' are a de facto [[faction]] consisting of all [[IP number]]s consistently used to do [[vandalism]], whose editors seem to have no interest in becoming [[trolls]]. When trolls will not vouch for an edit, by whatever means they use to do that (it must be [[factionally defined]] by them alone), then it must be considered [[vandalism]]. Presumably this includes all insensible page replacement, graffiti-like "tagging", plain jokes, or simple page blanking. [[Lowest Troll]] can remove these from view, as soon as the trolls agree its vandalism.

Note that [[sysop vandalism]] and less visible [[developer vandalism]] is also possible. There is no reason to believe that sysops or developers never make an article less useful, or never engage in behaviour that degardes the corpus.

By incorporating vandals as a faction in themselves, one that is the only one whose edits are invisible, we achieve [[reflexive design|reflexive]] [[wiki management]] where no external "mailing list" or "IRC channel" or "special status" is required.

:Huh? How are vandal edits invisible, unless they are deleted?--[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 22:28, 14 Jul 2004 (EEST)

::That's exactly the point. Any [[faction]] (including [[sysop]]s and other [[troll]]s) can revert/delete vandal edits. The definition of being in this faction is that your edits are invisible. ;-)

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 *the sophisticated vandal who inserts credible-reading nonsense like false facts that seem almost right - if this is nonrandom then they may be a [[POV warrior]] or [[funded troll]] which is not vandalism but a genuine conflict on what sources to trust
 *the [[sysop vandal]] who exercises [[technological escalation]] and trust gained through doing routine tasks, to apply their poor editorial judgement, e.g. to [[ad hominem delete]] or [[IP block]] those whose philosophies aren't compatible with infinite tolerance of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]], i.e. that those who have technological power, are morally superior by definition.
+=== Vandals as a [[faction]] ===
+The '''Vandals''' are a de facto [[faction]] consisting of all [[IP number]]s consistently used to do [[vandalism]], whose editors seem to have no interest in becoming [[trolls]].  When trolls will not vouch for an edit, by whatever means they use to do that (it must be [[factionally defined]] by them alone), then it must be considered [[vandalism]].  Presumably this includes all insensible page replacement, graffiti-like "tagging", plain jokes, or simple page blanking.  [[Lowest Troll]] can remove these from view, as soon as the trolls agree its vandalism.
+Note that [[sysop vandalism]] and less visible [[developer vandalism]] is also possible.  There is no reason to believe that sysops or developers never make an article less useful, or never engage in behaviour that degardes the corpus.
+By incorporating vandals as a faction in themselves, one that is the only one whose edits are invisible, we achieve [[reflexive design|reflexive]] [[wiki management]] where no external "mailing list" or "IRC channel" or "special status" is required.
+:Huh? How are vandal edits invisible, unless they are deleted?--[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 22:28, 14 Jul 2004 (EEST)
+::That's exactly the point.  Any [[faction]] (including [[sysop]]s and other [[troll]]s) can revert/delete vandal edits.  The definition of being in this faction is that your edits are invisible.  ;-)