Interwiki link standard: Difference between revisions

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Because of various uses of abbreviations for services, assumptions about services, etc., it is presently quite confusing. [[Mediawiki]] supports a deliberately Wikipedia-centric scheme in which for instance "[ [ en: ] ]" means not "in English" but "in the English Wikipedia". As a result, a reference to "[ [ en: Metaweb: phyle ] ]" will be interpreted incorrectly as a reference to English Wikipedia where there is no article, instead of correctly to [http://www.metaweb.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=phyle English Metaweb 'phyle'] where there is one.

:''[[Mediawiki]] is likely to continue to resist and retard the development of such a standard for the usual reasons (typically [[software imperialism]] and specifically the control of that project by [[Erik Moeller]] and [[Tim Starling]] ~~- see [[Wikimedia]] and [[Wikimedia corruption]] for discussion of this problem~~). Other [[wiki code]] will almost certainly be required.''

:''[[Mediawiki]] is likely to continue to resist and retard the development of such a standard for the usual reasons (typically [[software imperialism]] and specifically the control of that project by [[Erik Moeller]] and [[Tim Starling]]). Other [[wiki code]] will almost certainly be required.''

::''A single standard for at least the [[GFDL text corpus]] is highly desirable, and hopefully will be supported in [[GetWiki_2.0]] or another [[MediaWiki]] fork. See [http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.phtml?title=GetWiki:InterWiki GetWiki:Interwiki en:Wikinfo:GetWiki:InterWiki] for more on this and integration into [[GetWiki]].''

'''See [[Wiki linking]] for practical information how similar linking is done right now.'''

A proposal to meet the '''interwiki link standard''' at least from a user point of view, is to use [[anchor text]] that meets it, even though [[MediaWiki]] and [[GetWiki]] are still treating language spaces as subsets of Wikipedia. So you create links that look right, and meet the eventual language-first-service-second standard, but they can be raw URLs or use the (wrong, service-first-language-second) name scheme [[MediaWiki]] and [[GetWiki]] use now. So for example <nowiki>[[whatever you are forced by software to put here, put here, like wikipedia:fr:anomie or the raw URL|fr:Wikipedia:anomie]]</nowiki>. A bot can clean it up later.

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 Because of various uses of abbreviations for services, assumptions about services, etc., it is presently quite confusing.  [[Mediawiki]] supports a deliberately Wikipedia-centric scheme in which for instance "[ [ en: ] ]" means not "in English" but "in the English Wikipedia".  As a result, a reference to "[ [ en: Metaweb: phyle ] ]" will be interpreted incorrectly as a reference to English Wikipedia where there is no article, instead of correctly to [http://www.metaweb.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=phyle English Metaweb 'phyle'] where there is one.
-:''[[Mediawiki]] is likely to continue to resist and retard the development of such a standard for the usual reasons (typically [[software imperialism]] and specifically the control of that project by [[Erik Moeller]] and [[Tim Starling]] - see [[Wikimedia]] and [[Wikimedia corruption]] for discussion of this problem).  Other [[wiki code]] will almost certainly be required.''
+:''[[Mediawiki]] is likely to continue to resist and retard the development of such a standard for the usual reasons (typically [[software imperialism]] and specifically the control of that project by [[Erik Moeller]] and [[Tim Starling]]).  Other [[wiki code]] will almost certainly be required.''
 ::''A single standard for at least the [[GFDL text corpus]] is highly desirable, and hopefully will be supported in [[GetWiki_2.0]] or another [[MediaWiki]] fork.  See [http://www.wikinfo.org/wiki.phtml?title=GetWiki:InterWiki GetWiki:Interwiki en:Wikinfo:GetWiki:InterWiki] for more on this and integration into [[GetWiki]].''
 '''See [[Wiki linking]] for practical information how similar linking is done right now.'''
+A proposal to meet the '''interwiki link standard''' at least from a user point of view, is to use [[anchor text]] that meets it, even though [[MediaWiki]] and [[GetWiki]] are still treating language spaces as subsets of Wikipedia.  So you create links that look right, and meet the eventual language-first-service-second standard, but they can be raw URLs or use the (wrong, service-first-language-second) name scheme [[MediaWiki]] and [[GetWiki]] use now.  So for example <nowiki>[[whatever you are forced by software to put here, put here, like wikipedia:fr:anomie or the raw URL|fr:Wikipedia:anomie]]</nowiki>.  A bot can clean it up later.