Democratize or destroy: Difference between revisions
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3a. invite [[w:User:Mirwin]], [[w:User:Netesq]], [[w:User:Jrincayc]], [[w:User:The_Cunctator]], [[w:User:Mydogategodshat]], [[w:User:Lsolum]], [[w:User:Waveguy]], [[w:User:Anthere]], [[w:User:Kat]] and others who have been diligent about process, and eloquent about the problems of Wikipedia, to participate, ''first'', and ask them to intervene to create a [[troll bridge]] when other Wikipedians, who have absorbed the negative and authoritarian conditioning of its "vile mailing list" (as The Cunctator calls it), make the error of considering Consumerium like Wikipedia. | 3a. invite [[w:User:Mirwin]], [[w:User:Netesq]], [[w:User:Jrincayc]], [[w:User:The_Cunctator]], [[w:User:Mydogategodshat]], [[w:User:Lsolum]], [[w:User:Waveguy]], [[w:User:Anthere]], [[w:User:Kat]] and others who have been diligent about process, and eloquent about the problems of Wikipedia, to participate, ''first'', and ask them to intervene to create a [[troll bridge]] when other Wikipedians, who have absorbed the negative and authoritarian conditioning of its "vile mailing list" (as The Cunctator calls it), make the error of considering Consumerium like Wikipedia. | ||
3b. consider banning all Wikipedians with sysop status or those who advocate reverting edits for non-encyclopedic reasons, period (see [[talk:democratize_or_destroy]] for a list) - to work at Consumerium they must give up all input into such decisions, and must revert "troll edits" to prove they are more devoted to the declared goal of the wiki, than each other. Those at Wikipedia who do this spontaneously or otherwise work to make it "a serious encyclopedia" in defiance of sysops should be recruited, of course. So far such users include [[w:User:Waveguy]], [[w:User:Ann_Kyslowski]], [[w:User:Jrincayc]] (who protested anti-troll policies and went so far as to restore talk files after vandalism - Jrincayc offered to add any edits one banned user wished to make if he wanted to email then to him). Kyslowski was banned apparently just for restoring a single troll edit, leading to some questions by Waveguy, who was apparently the only person who cares about the encyclopedic quality of the edits. | 3b. consider banning all Wikipedians with sysop status or those who advocate reverting edits for non-encyclopedic reasons, period (see [[talk:democratize_or_destroy]] for a list) - to work at Consumerium they must give up all input into such decisions, and must revert "troll edits" to prove they are more devoted to the declared goal of the wiki, than each other. Those at Wikipedia who do this spontaneously or otherwise work to make it "a serious encyclopedia" in defiance of sysops should be recruited, of course. So far such users include [[w:User:Waveguy]], [[w:User:Ann_Kyslowski]], [[w:User:Jrincayc]] (who protested anti-troll policies and went so far as to restore talk files after [[sysop vandalism]] - Jrincayc offered to add any edits one banned user wished to make if he wanted to email then to him). Kyslowski was banned apparently just for restoring a single troll edit, leading to some questions by Waveguy, who was apparently the only person who cares about the encyclopedic quality of the edits. | ||
4. Engage in the "democratize or destroy" and [[right to fork]] debates on as many other wikis and meta-wikis as discuss them. Avoid those, and those people who control editorial decisions, on those where such debates are banned or even marginalized. | 4. Engage in the "democratize or destroy" and [[right to fork]] debates on as many other wikis and meta-wikis as discuss them. Avoid those, and those people who control editorial decisions, on those where such debates are banned or even marginalized. | ||