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:We only expect them to blow their stacks when they find themselves subject to their own [[trolling tactic]]s - and look! | :We only expect them to blow their stacks when they find themselves subject to their own [[trolling tactic]]s - and look! | ||
::Look? Where? This is fun. | |||
It's actually impossible to tell what you think any of these people you hate, actually specifically did. | It's actually impossible to tell what you think any of these people you hate, actually specifically did. | ||
:Who said anything about hatred? Are you claiming that all [[trolls]] ''hate'' the targets of their [[trolling]]? | :Who said anything about hatred? Are you claiming that all [[trolls]] ''hate'' the targets of their [[trolling]]? | ||
::No, but those who try to engage in [[outing]] no matter how pathetic or inaccurate are betraying a need to drag a [[body]] into a situation where it was not previously involved. Hate is the main motive for that sort of thing. It's just not what [[trolls]] do, that is, that particular element is not an aspect of [[trolling]], but rather, of [[power grab]]s undertaken by sysops. | |||
One is forced to conclude that you just don't know, you just know that they are safe targets for you to direct your [[w:self-hatred]] outwards against. Not to do [[amateur psychiatry]], but, why not? | One is forced to conclude that you just don't know, you just know that they are safe targets for you to direct your [[w:self-hatred]] outwards against. Not to do [[amateur psychiatry]], but, why not? | ||
:If you must engage in [[amateur psychiatry]], do try to make your diagnoses have ''some'' relation to reality - don't fall into the trap of the [[Wikimedia|Witchimedian]]s by making up this kind of nonsense. | :If you must engage in [[amateur psychiatry]], do try to make your diagnoses have ''some'' relation to reality - don't fall into the trap of the [[Wikimedia|Witchimedian]]s by making up this kind of nonsense. | ||
::There is little "reality" in your discourse, it seems to lack referents. Your [[faction]] is unclear, as is your [[wiki mission|mission]]. Perhaps you lack direction in your life in general? Let us introduce you to trolling as a [[w:personality cult|lifestyle that will focus you on what is truly important]]. | |||
You and your friends do plenty of that, right? | You and your friends do plenty of that, right? | ||
:My fellow [[trolls]] do, at least. | :My fellow [[trolls]] do, at least. | ||
::Fair, a [[sysop]] is the lowest form [[trolls]] take - only when they abandon the [[technological escalation]] of the [[IP block]] can they actually become fully developed [[trolls]]. | |||
That's how you justify your [[sysop vandalism]]. | That's how you justify your [[sysop vandalism]]. | ||
:[[Trolls]] have helpfully provided us with [[Alleged and collective identity|a response]] seemingly designed exactly for this attempt to associate us with the wicked [[sysop power structure]]: | :[[Trolls]] have helpfully provided us with [[Alleged and collective identity|a response]] seemingly designed exactly for this attempt to associate us with the wicked [[sysop power structure]]: | ||
::It requires no particular [[command hierarchy]] to have a [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]. Some people are raised by parents who beat them or rape them, and such people will in general tend to believe "might makes right" in later life - pardon the psychiatry. But that is not to say that this describes YOU. | |||
*''do not claim that others are all funded by some group or part of some party if they have not said so themselves'' | *''do not claim that others are all funded by some group or part of some party if they have not said so themselves'' | ||
:but they fling so many [[troll droppings]] that they can be forgiven for not remembering all of them. | :but they fling so many [[troll droppings]] that they can be forgiven for not remembering all of them. | ||
::Fair enough. One troll's droppings are another troll's gems. That's what makes for [[politics as usual]]. | |||
::For instance, if we were all [[w:authoritarianism|authoritarians]] then we would be able to identify one source of "truth" about [[alleged and collective identity]] and all that. But [[anti-authoritarianism in practice]] means some acceptance of ambiguity, uncertainty, and the good humour of [[political virtues]]. | |||