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[http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-March/011443.html Abe Sokolov on the wikien-l list] writes: | |||
:"The "[[Reds|red]] [[faction]]" isn't a [[vandalism]] problem, but an example of mutual misperception and misjudgment breeding conflict and hostility. On a more practical note, the persistence of the "red faction" in regenerating itself over and over again (almost like Lir and his many incarnations) makes it clear that banning this user, or [[driven off by trolls|attempting to chase him away and make him feel unwelcome]], are crude, self-defeating solutions. Since the Wiki mailing list is libertarian country, I'll say that it's like slapping on price controls to curb inflation. Or perhaps putting a bandage on a leaking dam. In other words, it's an unworkable straitjacket that will only confound the problem." | :"The "[[Reds|red]] [[faction]]" isn't a [[vandalism]] problem, but an example of mutual misperception and misjudgment breeding conflict and hostility. On a more practical note, the persistence of the "red faction" in regenerating itself over and over again (almost like Lir and his many incarnations) makes it clear that banning this user, or [[driven off by trolls|attempting to chase him away and make him feel unwelcome]], are crude, self-defeating solutions. Since the Wiki mailing list is libertarian country, I'll say that it's like slapping on price controls to curb inflation. Or perhaps putting a bandage on a leaking dam. In other words, it's an unworkable straitjacket that will only confound the problem." | ||
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**position: If [[Green Party policy]] really does help unify Green Party policy, then [[Greens]] at least could claim to "know how to do this" advancing of terminology. They can then try convincing everyone else to use [[greenspeak]] at least when talking about economics and industries. ONLY WHEN THAT WORKS CAN THEY CLAIM TO HAVE ANY EXPERTISE HERE. | **position: If [[Green Party policy]] really does help unify Green Party policy, then [[Greens]] at least could claim to "know how to do this" advancing of terminology. They can then try convincing everyone else to use [[greenspeak]] at least when talking about economics and industries. ONLY WHEN THAT WORKS CAN THEY CLAIM TO HAVE ANY EXPERTISE HERE. | ||
***argument: this is actually one of the EASIER problems in factionally defined terms, since Greens take so much terminology from well known fields - they use terms from the [[w:list of ecology topics]], [[w:list of ethics topics]] as is, whereas other factions typically try to just invent their own. | ***argument: this is actually one of the EASIER problems in factionally defined terms, since Greens take so much terminology from well known fields - they use terms from the [[w:list of ecology topics]], [[w:list of ethics topics]] as is, whereas other factions typically try to just invent their own. | ||