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It's true that trolls inspire paranoia amongst their opposites, but some are able to keep aloof and remain sympathisers, and what do you do then? What do trolls do when they get trolled? | It's true that trolls inspire paranoia amongst their opposites, but some are able to keep aloof and remain sympathisers, and what do you do then? What do trolls do when they get trolled? | ||
:''some are able to keep aloof and remain sympathisers, and what do you do then? What do trolls do when they get trolled?" They troll back obviously. There was a fine example of this on [[ape mother]] that demonstrated many of the [[political virtues]] on both sides.'' | :''some are able to keep aloof and remain sympathisers, and what do you do then? What do trolls do when they get trolled?" They troll back obviously. There was a fine example of this on [[ape mother]] that demonstrated many of the [[political virtues]] on both sides.'' | ||
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:Yes. Ignore the [[trolls]] and some trolls outrageous claim to be the [[blacks|black]] faction as I could think of a number of colors that would suit them better. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 15:06, 19 Aug 2004 (EEST) | :Yes. Ignore the [[trolls]] and some trolls outrageous claim to be the [[blacks|black]] faction as I could think of a number of colors that would suit them better. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 15:06, 19 Aug 2004 (EEST) | ||
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Hey, our apprentice [[trolls]] are improving. That one was not bad. It is vague enough that it is probably not even [[libel]]. Though how anyone can "take responsibility" for a pile of vague claims about basically nothing important, is a bit beyond [[Consumerium:We|us]]. Just what exactly do you expect others to do? Separate out your various irrational and incorrect and incoherent ways of stating what you think "happened", and find something in all that to answer to? | |||
:We only expect them to blow their stacks when they find themselves subject to their own [[trolling tactic]]s - and look! | |||
::Look? Where? This is fun. | |||
It's actually impossible to tell what you think any of these people you hate, actually specifically did. | |||
:Who said anything about hatred? Are you claiming that all [[trolls]] ''hate'' the targets of their [[trolling]]? | |||
::No, but those who try to engage in [[outing]] no matter how pathetic or inaccurate are betraying a need to drag a [[body]] into a situation where it was not previously involved. Hate is the main motive for that sort of thing. It's just not what [[trolls]] do, that is, that particular element is not an aspect of [[trolling]], but rather, of [[power grab]]s undertaken by sysops. | |||
One is forced to conclude that you just don't know, you just know that they are safe targets for you to direct your [[w:self-hatred]] outwards against. Not to do [[amateur psychiatry]], but, why not? | |||
:If you must engage in [[amateur psychiatry]], do try to make your diagnoses have ''some'' relation to reality - don't fall into the trap of the [[Wikimedia|Witchimedian]]s by making up this kind of nonsense. | |||
::There is little "reality" in your discourse, it seems to lack referents. Your [[faction]] is unclear, as is your [[wiki mission|mission]]. Perhaps you lack direction in your life in general? Let us introduce you to trolling as a [[w:personality cult|lifestyle that will focus you on what is truly important]]. | |||
You and your friends do plenty of that, right? | |||
:My fellow [[trolls]] do, at least. | |||
::Fair, a [[sysop]] is the lowest form [[trolls]] take - only when they abandon the [[technological escalation]] of the [[IP block]] can they actually become fully developed [[trolls]]. | |||
That's how you justify your [[sysop vandalism]]. | |||
:[[Trolls]] have helpfully provided us with [[Alleged and collective identity|a response]] seemingly designed exactly for this attempt to associate us with the wicked [[sysop power structure]]: | |||
::It requires no particular [[command hierarchy]] to have a [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]. Some people are raised by parents who beat them or rape them, and such people will in general tend to believe "might makes right" in later life - pardon the psychiatry. But that is not to say that this describes YOU. | |||
*''do not claim that others are all funded by some group or part of some party if they have not said so themselves'' | |||
:but they fling so many [[troll droppings]] that they can be forgiven for not remembering all of them. | |||
::Fair enough. One troll's droppings are another troll's gems. That's what makes for [[politics as usual]]. | |||
::For instance, if we were all [[w:authoritarianism|authoritarians]] then we would be able to identify one source of "truth" about [[alleged and collective identity]] and all that. But [[anti-authoritarianism in practice]] means some acceptance of ambiguity, uncertainty, and the good humour of [[political virtues]]. | |||