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    [[Technologies]] especially FOSS ( Free and Open Source Software ) has a key role in making the Consumium [[goals]] possible. A lot has changed since 2002/2003, the [[means]] are here at reach to make Consumium work in the real world. [[#What kind of information Consumerium / Consumium plans to offer consumers on businesses?|lot of the information]] described in the [[Goals and means of the Consumerium project]] is available from [[DBpedia]] [[w:ontology]] and [[w:dataset]]s ( from [[categories]] and from [[infoboxen]] ) and also from [[Wikidata]][http://wikidata.org/ (.org)] which was initiated in 2012. Consumium.org will have it's own wikidata.consumium.org and we sync from multiple sources ( both [[DBpedia]] and [[Wikidata]] )


    == InstantCommons ==
    [[MediaWiki]], it's extra [[namespaces]], [[templates]], [[categories]], [[MediaWiki/extensions|extensions]], [[MediaWiki/widgets|widgets]] and [[MediaWiki/bots|bots]] ( all running on Debian GNU/Linux LAMP-servers-from-cloud ) need to be finetuned to work together.


    We can have Company logos etc. from Wikimedia Commons, no need to upload a gazillion logos just for use in Consumerium. See [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Coca+Cola&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 Commons images for "Coca Cola"] or [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Logos+of+companies+in+Quebec&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 logos of companies in Quebec] etc.
    Templates will be widely employed to add [[categories]] to articles.
     
    All languages will be served from single wiki utilizing [[mw:MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle]].
     
    == Costs of infrastructure ==
    The most computer resources in the original plans were the means to serve the [[Advertisement Videos]] but today those can be embedded into wiki from youtube.com so that's taken care of and we require zero investent to enable serving videos.
     
    == Manual work / automized work ==
    The most human resources demanding was the entering of the [[Business]] and [[Product]] data but with the emergence of [[DBpedia]] we can have extensive datas on 40,000+ businesses fully automatically and many many other entities/articles.
     
    == Issues needing resolving ==
    The [[#licensing|licensing]] issue of whether to go with [[GFDL]] + CC-A-SA double licensing or just one of them needs to be well thought out and solved.
     
    == Name change ==
    In Spring 2012 the decision was made to [[#Changing the name of the effort from Consumerium to Consumium|change the name of the effort from Consumerium to Consumium]]
     
    == Wiki structure ==
    [[#Consumium wiki structure|Consumium wiki structure]] is much in a state of change at the moment, but the current design plan is to '''serve all languages from a single''' wiki much like [[Translatewiki]] is doing and to have a second wiki for file uploads ( like the commons ) and to use [[Single-signon]] with the two wikis, so that the user accounts are global.. With the coming of the [[Universal Language Selector]] we will likely adopt the form of <tt>/wiki/Article_name_in_English/fi</tt> instead of <tt>/wiki/fi/Artikkelin_nimi_suomeksi</tt>.
     
    == Developers needed ==
    [[Templates|Template]] designers to design templates obviously, [[Mediawiki]] [[MediaWiki/extensions|extension]] programmers to implement [[voting]] system and [[feedback]] delivery system
     
    == Licensing ==
    I think Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License is a natural choice but I'm not sure. Surely it would make little sense to license the [[voting|votes]] so keep them copyright of the user i.e. have the templates used for quick voting will be under CC-A-SA but the actual votes are not under GFDL or CC-A-SA.. Right ? This can be done by loading a dump into a temp database and deleting everything in the User-namespace and redumping.
     
    == Changing the name of the effort from Consumerium to Consumium ==
    The [[Lowest Troll]] has unilaterally decided it's better to drop the letters "er" to arrive at the effort being named Consumium, instead of Consumerium and has registerd the domain http://consumium.org to be used for the [[Implementation Wiki]] meanwhile the [[Development Wiki]] ( this wiki ) may remain at it's usual http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/ address or be moved to develop.consumium.org , this is an open question of low urgency and importance.
     
    == What kind of information Consumerium / Consumium plans to offer consumers on businesses? ==
    * <tt>Name</tt> ( from [[DBpedia]] )
    * <tt>HQ location</tt> - ( from [[DBpedia]] )
    * <tt>Type ([[Types of companies]])</tt> which evolved to <tt>[[w:en:Types of business entity]]</tt> ( from [[DBpedia]] )
    * <tt>Size range (activity) <nowiki><single location vendor>, <small and medium domestic>, <large domestic>, <international> <transnational> (operates on 3 or more</nowiki> continents.)</tt> from [[categories]] in [[Wikipedia]] and Consumium, see [[w:MNC]] [[w:Multi national corporation]], these are <international> at minimum and many are <transnational>s
    * <tt>Size range (vested capital/assets ( from [[DBpedia]] ) comparisioned against the industry average and/or nominal and/or stockvalue ( from where ##economics gets them ) shown delayed) <u>if</u> a public [[corporation]])</tt>
    * <tt>[[Employability]] ( years of employment provided / Million € of vested capital )</tt> and other <tt>[[Consumerium:Metrics]]</tt>
    * <tt>[[Consumerium:Metrics|Payments Per Investment]]</tt>
    * <tt>'''Link to their feedback page''' (or shoutbox or such as)</tt>
    * <tt>'''Their toll-free number''' (or a toll number if no toll-free line is supplied</tt>
    ::: These last two will have to be recorded on a per [[w:locale]] basis obviously for which there are [[MediaWiki/extensions]] ( such as [[MediaWiki/extensions#LandingCheck|LandingCheck]] and [[MediaWiki/widgets]] ( such as the upcoming [[MediaWiki/widgets#Universal Language Selector]] to automize the process of displaying the info for the locale the [[Consumer]] is in according to her/his browser.
    * <tt>What else...</tt>
     
    == Consumium wiki structure ==  
    The old plans called for having two wikis either [[Research Wiki]] and [[Publish Wiki]] ( suggested by the [[trolls]], focus on distinction of researchable stuff from publishable stuff ) or [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]] ( suggested by [[User:Juxo]], effort founder, focus on isolation of factual content from subjective opinions ) but currently it looks like those plans are scrapped in favor of having only one [[Implementation Wiki]] to minimize governmental overhead.  
     
    The upcoming [[Universal Language Selector]] conforms to the MediaWiki style of having the language code coming after the article, not before it, though our method would be navigationally perhaps better.
     
    === Primary structure ===
    #<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Business X/fi</tt>- Finnish langauge article on Business X
    #<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Business X/en</tt> - English langauge article on Business X
    #<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Business X/sv</tt> - Swedish langauge article on Business X
     
    (these are all the languages that [[User:Juxo|I]]'m fluent enough to [[sysopping|sysop]])


    <tt>from wm-bot: InstantCommons is a feature for MediaWiki 1.16+ '''that allows any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons'''. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos>. If you're only looking to use images from Wikimedia Commons and no other wikis, you can use the shortcut setting $wgUseInstantCommons to true.</tt>
    *<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Product X</tt> - Article on Product X
    *<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Brand X</tt> - Article on Brand X
    *<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Business X/feedback</tt> - Feedback sent to Business X
    *<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Product X/reviews</tt> - Reviews of Product X
    *<tt>consumium.org/wiki/Country/City/District/Business X</tt> (for businesses that have a few or one outlet(s))


    == MediaWiki extensions ==
    == MediaWiki extensions ==
    * [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Data Extension:Data]] [http://www.rastko.net/~nikola/wiki/index.php/Main_Page here is an example of Extension:Data in action] In this extension data is described by '''item/key/value triplets''', where 'item' is typically the name of the article, 'key' the name of the data, and 'value' the actual data.
    See '''[[MediaWiki/Extensions]]''' for a newer list of potential implementation phase extensions.
    * <tt>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist Extension:SpamBlacklist]</tt> - [[regex]]es against spammers - installed and working.
    * <tt>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit Extension:ConfirmEdit]</tt> - installed and working.
    * <s><tt>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualMathCaptcha Extension:VisualMathCaptcha]</tt></s> strike this - supports only MediaWiki 1.16 and below - anti-bot measure. See [[w:CAPTCHA|CAPTCHA]] if you don't know what it is


    == Consumerium wiki structure ==
    == Images via $wgForeignFileRepos ==
    ===Primary structure===
    #<tt>consumerium.org/wiki/fi</tt>- Finnish langauge article space
    #<tt>consumerium.org/wiki/en</tt> - English language article space
    #<tt>consumerium.org/wiki/sv</tt> - Swedish language article space


    (these are all the languages that I'm fluent enough to [[sysopping|sysop]])
    We can have Company logos etc. from Wikimedia Commons, no need to upload a gazillion logos just for use in Consumerium. See [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Coca+Cola&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 Commons images for "Coca Cola"] or [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Logos+of+companies+in+Quebec&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1 logos of companies in Quebec] etc.


    ===Ideas about using sub-articles extensively to avoid massive disambig collision===
    <tt>from wm-bot: InstantCommons is a feature for MediaWiki 1.16+ '''that allows any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons'''. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos>. If you're only looking to use images from Wikimedia Commons and no other wikis, you can use the shortcut setting $wgUseInstantCommons to true.</tt>
    <tt>consumerium.org/wiki/en/Company/Brand/Product</tt>- For big corporations<br />
    <tt>consumerium.org/wiki/en/Company/Product</tt> - For smaller companies<br />
    <tt>consumerium.org/wiki/en/Product</tt> - a redirect to Company/Brand/Product if Product name '''is not a company name'''<br />
    <tt>consumerium.org/wiki/en/Country/City/District/Business</tt> (for businesses that have a few or one outlet(s))<br />
     
    ===Sub-articleing vs. extensive and heavy use of categories===
    not sure if sub-articleing is a good idea. using mediawiki's [[Special:Categories|categories]] instead to provide nested structures


    == Using Youtube to serve videos  ==
    == Using Youtube to serve videos  ==


    [[Adverts]] and [[Anti-advert]]s can be served from Youtube to [[mobile device|mobile]] or desktop devices.
    [[Ads]] and [[Anti-ad]]s can be served from Youtube to [[mobile device|mobile]] or desktop devices using the [[MediaWiki/Widgets#Youtube|Youtube-widget]].

    Latest revision as of 12:28, 30 July 2020

    Technologies especially FOSS ( Free and Open Source Software ) has a key role in making the Consumium goals possible. A lot has changed since 2002/2003, the means are here at reach to make Consumium work in the real world. lot of the information described in the Goals and means of the Consumerium project is available from DBpedia w:ontology and w:datasets ( from categories and from infoboxen ) and also from Wikidata(.org) which was initiated in 2012. Consumium.org will have it's own wikidata.consumium.org and we sync from multiple sources ( both DBpedia and Wikidata )

    MediaWiki, it's extra namespaces, templates, categories, extensions, widgets and bots ( all running on Debian GNU/Linux LAMP-servers-from-cloud ) need to be finetuned to work together.

    Templates will be widely employed to add categories to articles.

    All languages will be served from single wiki utilizing mw:MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle.

    Costs of infrastructure[edit | edit source]

    The most computer resources in the original plans were the means to serve the Advertisement Videos but today those can be embedded into wiki from youtube.com so that's taken care of and we require zero investent to enable serving videos.

    Manual work / automized work[edit | edit source]

    The most human resources demanding was the entering of the Business and Product data but with the emergence of DBpedia we can have extensive datas on 40,000+ businesses fully automatically and many many other entities/articles.

    Issues needing resolving[edit | edit source]

    The licensing issue of whether to go with GFDL + CC-A-SA double licensing or just one of them needs to be well thought out and solved.

    Name change[edit | edit source]

    In Spring 2012 the decision was made to change the name of the effort from Consumerium to Consumium

    Wiki structure[edit | edit source]

    Consumium wiki structure is much in a state of change at the moment, but the current design plan is to serve all languages from a single wiki much like Translatewiki is doing and to have a second wiki for file uploads ( like the commons ) and to use Single-signon with the two wikis, so that the user accounts are global.. With the coming of the Universal Language Selector we will likely adopt the form of /wiki/Article_name_in_English/fi instead of /wiki/fi/Artikkelin_nimi_suomeksi.

    Developers needed[edit | edit source]

    Template designers to design templates obviously, Mediawiki extension programmers to implement voting system and feedback delivery system

    Licensing[edit | edit source]

    I think Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License is a natural choice but I'm not sure. Surely it would make little sense to license the votes so keep them copyright of the user i.e. have the templates used for quick voting will be under CC-A-SA but the actual votes are not under GFDL or CC-A-SA.. Right ? This can be done by loading a dump into a temp database and deleting everything in the User-namespace and redumping.

    Changing the name of the effort from Consumerium to Consumium[edit | edit source]

    The Lowest Troll has unilaterally decided it's better to drop the letters "er" to arrive at the effort being named Consumium, instead of Consumerium and has registerd the domain http://consumium.org to be used for the Implementation Wiki meanwhile the Development Wiki ( this wiki ) may remain at it's usual http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/ address or be moved to develop.consumium.org , this is an open question of low urgency and importance.

    What kind of information Consumerium / Consumium plans to offer consumers on businesses?[edit | edit source]

    These last two will have to be recorded on a per w:locale basis obviously for which there are MediaWiki/extensions ( such as LandingCheck and MediaWiki/widgets ( such as the upcoming MediaWiki/widgets#Universal Language Selector to automize the process of displaying the info for the locale the Consumer is in according to her/his browser.
    • What else...

    Consumium wiki structure[edit | edit source]

    The old plans called for having two wikis either Research Wiki and Publish Wiki ( suggested by the trolls, focus on distinction of researchable stuff from publishable stuff ) or Content Wiki and Opinion Wiki ( suggested by User:Juxo, effort founder, focus on isolation of factual content from subjective opinions ) but currently it looks like those plans are scrapped in favor of having only one Implementation Wiki to minimize governmental overhead.

    The upcoming Universal Language Selector conforms to the MediaWiki style of having the language code coming after the article, not before it, though our method would be navigationally perhaps better.

    Primary structure[edit | edit source]

    1. consumium.org/wiki/Business X/fi- Finnish langauge article on Business X
    2. consumium.org/wiki/Business X/en - English langauge article on Business X
    3. consumium.org/wiki/Business X/sv - Swedish langauge article on Business X

    (these are all the languages that I'm fluent enough to sysop)

    • consumium.org/wiki/Product X - Article on Product X
    • consumium.org/wiki/Brand X - Article on Brand X
    • consumium.org/wiki/Business X/feedback - Feedback sent to Business X
    • consumium.org/wiki/Product X/reviews - Reviews of Product X
    • consumium.org/wiki/Country/City/District/Business X (for businesses that have a few or one outlet(s))

    MediaWiki extensions[edit | edit source]

    See MediaWiki/Extensions for a newer list of potential implementation phase extensions.

    Images via $wgForeignFileRepos[edit | edit source]

    We can have Company logos etc. from Wikimedia Commons, no need to upload a gazillion logos just for use in Consumerium. See Commons images for "Coca Cola" or logos of companies in Quebec etc.

    from wm-bot: InstantCommons is a feature for MediaWiki 1.16+ that allows any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos>. If you're only looking to use images from Wikimedia Commons and no other wikis, you can use the shortcut setting $wgUseInstantCommons to true.

    Using Youtube to serve videos[edit | edit source]

    Ads and Anti-ads can be served from Youtube to mobile or desktop devices using the Youtube-widget.