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:They have become a sysop power structure only in the sense that no-one else may edit their site because it is a static HTML site where no-one else gets any say to what is being published
:They have become a sysop power structure only in the sense that no-one else may edit their site because it is a static HTML site where no-one else gets any say to what is being published
::That is a cult, i.e. a "Website".  Just more marketing.  Perhaps this is worse than a sysop power structure, it is an [[ideology]] maybe. ;-)


and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].   
and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].   


:Let's not mix up established terminology. Sysop vandalism can be done only by those that have sysop rights to a certain wiki (or other site). '''There is no such thing as sysop vandalism on by parties with no sysop rights.
:Let's not mix up established terminology. Sysop vandalism can be done only by those that have sysop rights to a certain wiki (or other site). '''There is no such thing as sysop vandalism on by parties with no sysop rights.
::Not even if they use control of other tools or technologies?  IT is possible to do [[hacktivism]] but the question is, is that more sysop vandalism.


In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.
In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.


:Rubbish
:Rubbish
::You did not answer the point.  Finding "more powerful technology" is the thing that makes you into George W. Bush rather than Mohandas Gandhi, according to the trolls.  THat is why they do not in general seek sysop powers nor would use them.  BUt if they do seek out more powerful technology than sysop powers, they are just doing the same thing they criticize, and aren't morally better in any way than those who use other technologies to track them down and revert them.
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