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:I have a problem with the definition given by WWF, as it add to this one "with boundaries that approximate the original extent of natural communities prior to major land-use change". I think this approach tends to consider that these areas were static (which is only true on a very small time scale) and the preanthropic areas were the "right" ones (when thinking in terms of biodiversity conservation). Besides, on some continents, it is likely major land-use change occured quite a long time ago. I think they focus too much on what would have been expected to be found given local conditions, "if" human had had no impact whatsoever.<br> | :I have a problem with the definition given by WWF, as it add to this one "with boundaries that approximate the original extent of natural communities prior to major land-use change". I think this approach tends to consider that these areas were static (which is only true on a very small time scale) and the preanthropic areas were the "right" ones (when thinking in terms of biodiversity conservation). Besides, on some continents, it is likely major land-use change occured quite a long time ago. I think they focus too much on what would have been expected to be found given local conditions, "if" human had had no impact whatsoever.<br> | ||
:This is not dreamland, this is consumerium. I question defining ecoregion more as a potentiality than a reality. Both are important, but if ecoregions are defined with that limitation in mind, trade issues, borders issues, will perhaps not be addressed very well. | :This is not dreamland, this is consumerium. I question defining ecoregion more as a potentiality than a reality. Both are important, but if ecoregions are defined with that limitation in mind, trade issues, borders issues, will perhaps not be addressed very well. | ||
::I think there must be strong [[visions]] of what this can do, so I support using ecoregions and whole-planet systems ([[atmosphere]], [[climate]]) being as the basis of all [[ecology risk]] information, while [[country]], [[trade]], [[border]] questions must be how you deal with [[social risk]]. There's really no other way. | ::I think there must be strong [[visions]] of what this can do, so I support using ecoregions and whole-planet systems ([[atmosphere]], [[climate]]) being as the basis of all [[ecology risk]] information, while [[country]], [[trade]], [[border]] questions must be how you deal with [[social risk]]. There's really no other way. | ||
:::I agree with house elf on the separation of area of denomination for [[social risk]] and [[ecology risk]], though some further distinctions must be made to assess [[social risk]] eg. [[free zone]]s (zones with special [[tax]] and [[labor law]] exemptions like some [[textile]] heavy free zones in middle america (fevelas?) | :::I agree with house elf (142) on the separation of area of denomination for [[social risk]] and [[ecology risk]], though some further distinctions must be made to assess [[social risk]] eg. [[free zone]]s (zones with special [[tax]] and [[labor law]] exemptions like some [[textile]] heavy free zones in middle america (fevelas?) | ||
:::Further solid [[waste]] and [[emission]]s (aerosolised or liquid pollution) must be treated as different cases since emissions don't follow national or other borders, but are a [[global]] issue. I have no expertese in this area, so I'm hoping someone else will look into this [[waste]] and [[emission]] [[assesment]] issue. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 15:52 May 9, 2003 (EEST) | :::Further solid [[waste]] and [[emission]]s (aerosolised or liquid pollution) must be treated as different cases since emissions don't follow national or other borders, but are a [[global]] issue. I have no expertese in this area, so I'm hoping someone else will look into this [[waste]] and [[emission]] [[assesment]] issue. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 15:52 May 9, 2003 (EEST) | ||
Revision as of 19:33, 9 May 2003
- I have a problem with the definition given by WWF, as it add to this one "with boundaries that approximate the original extent of natural communities prior to major land-use change". I think this approach tends to consider that these areas were static (which is only true on a very small time scale) and the preanthropic areas were the "right" ones (when thinking in terms of biodiversity conservation). Besides, on some continents, it is likely major land-use change occured quite a long time ago. I think they focus too much on what would have been expected to be found given local conditions, "if" human had had no impact whatsoever.
- This is not dreamland, this is consumerium. I question defining ecoregion more as a potentiality than a reality. Both are important, but if ecoregions are defined with that limitation in mind, trade issues, borders issues, will perhaps not be addressed very well.
- I think there must be strong visions of what this can do, so I support using ecoregions and whole-planet systems (atmosphere, climate) being as the basis of all ecology risk information, while country, trade, border questions must be how you deal with social risk. There's really no other way.
- I agree with house elf (142) on the separation of area of denomination for social risk and ecology risk, though some further distinctions must be made to assess social risk eg. free zones (zones with special tax and labor law exemptions like some textile heavy free zones in middle america (fevelas?)
- Further solid waste and emissions (aerosolised or liquid pollution) must be treated as different cases since emissions don't follow national or other borders, but are a global issue. I have no expertese in this area, so I'm hoping someone else will look into this waste and emission assesment issue. Juxo 15:52 May 9, 2003 (EEST)
- I think there must be strong visions of what this can do, so I support using ecoregions and whole-planet systems (atmosphere, climate) being as the basis of all ecology risk information, while country, trade, border questions must be how you deal with social risk. There's really no other way.