Research Wiki pilot

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The Research Wiki is the easiest element of a pilot project to start.

Accordingly, many poorly qualified people with no clue about wiki management seem to be starting some based on the principles of GodKing control, sysop power structure, sysop vigilantiism and sysop vandalism: Consumerpedia in particular has accepted all these norms.

CorpKnowPedia seems to be run by an experienced activist and may do better. However, its objectives are more limited and interaction with it more arm's length. Thus, it is not really an adequate Research Wiki pilot either.

We all seem to agree that a close relationship with some external sources of Research Wiki input is desirable and necessary. The Consumerium:intermediate pages are too difficult to maintain alone with a development-focused effort like Consumerium. It needs some convergence:


Convergence is far simpler if some basic conventions are followed very early, and some essential concepts have the same names everywhere: buying criteria, comprehensive outcome, economic choice, moral purchasing, political consumerism, fair trade, safe trade, and externalities like deforestation, extinction, slavery, etc.

From Consumerpedia point of view, different GFDL corpus might well be appropriate, and they might not always converge with those of Consumerium itself. But, it's easier to track that by making sure that essential projects have at least the most basic terminology in common, e.g. thaten: Consumerpedia: "we",en: Consumerpedia: "Policy" and en: Consumerpedia: "itself" have the usual meanings. An interwiki link standard would be handy about now!

Such wikis all need to get off on the right foot: Gus Kouwenhoven (perhaps CIV should be high on the investigation priorities list. If after all that work you're still buying from Gus via CIV, then, Consumerpedia will just be an enemy projects that distracts and distorts the reality. It does seem to be becoming exactly that sort of a project now!


Consumerium Service access that doesn't need worn devices could all happen through research sources directly if they converged perfectly on definitions of some concepts:

We must at least share comprehensive outcome and economic choice and very exact descriptions of externalities is a real mistake. It's going to take work to get everyone agreeing on all that! But without it, you have no consensus about what is actually worth documenting about a company, no standard terms to use, "what links here" becomes useless, and etc.


These pilot wikis are small and don't have a lot of wiki management problems yet. The above are the minimum required to achieve at least near-convergence. Other structural stuff like best cases, worst cases, user stories, etc., trolls leave to you to manage. It's probably best to avoid that structure for now - it only starts to matter once there is a very rigorous mission, that fails easily, or, far too many people involved.

'Consumerpedia isn't there, but, it's already adopting bad habits from there. An example of this kind of problems is Symbolwiki which Angela has begun to destroy. She is destroying its troll-friendly start with her sysop status. Similarly, you will never be able to use one scrap of what's at Consumerpedia to create a Consumerium:intermediate page or ever affect a Consumerium buying signal if she gets involved. She is absolute poison to projects that have to work from actual user buying criteria. And it may be that User:DanKeshet is no better. Certainly he's off to a bad start.


A serious Research Wiki pilot probably must be run by people who share our values, such as Greenpeace, Adbusters, Earth First or some other principles-driven, not technology-and-status-driven, real-world group.

Ideally people who have never heard of Wikipedia would be running the thing.