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    ''Is this the same as the [[Signal Wiki]]?  If not, why not?  What must be done to the data before it affects the [[Consumerium buying signal]]?  And when?''
    ''This page is not for actual [[features|content]] (i.e. do not attempt to classify [[CIV]] or [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] or what they are doing on this page) but for developing the syntax and governance of the Content Wiki so we can set one up.''
    ''It also is not about opinions, (ie. [[Campaign]]s and split articles on aspects where [[faction]]s do not agree), which go to [[Research Wiki]] aka [[Opinion Wiki]] where further research is performed.  Whatever it is called, this consists of [[Consumerium:intermediate page]]s which are often debated.''
    ==What is the Content Wiki?==
    ==What is the Content Wiki?==


    Content Wiki is where '''facts''' on [[product]]s and [[companies]] and such will be stored when it gets built.
    Content Wiki is where '''facts''' on [[product]]s and [[companies]] and such will be stored when it gets built. Facts require more discipline than [[opinion wiki]] comments.  When we say "fact" we mean [[instructional capital]] that all [[faction]]s accept as "true" at least to the degree it is allowed to alter the [[Consumerium buying signal]].  ''Another proposed name for this is the [[Signal Wiki]], which makes this relationship very clear.''


    '''Opinions''' (ie. [[Campaign]]s and split articles) go to [[Opinion Wiki]] when it gets built.
    It will be a [[large public wiki]] with the special problems of that type of communication.
     
    The [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] and its delegated [[sysop]]s will have to decide on what grounds each type of information is input, audited, linked, shared, duplicated, edited, contested, vetoed and removed and by whom.  


    This page is not for actual [[features|content]] but for developing the syntax and governance of the Content Wiki so we can set one up.
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    ==Wiki software==
    ==Wiki software for handling research ==
    To fork or not to fork that is the question. It is natural to presume that the wiki softare will be either:
    To [[fork]] or not to fork that is the question.   Which of the [[wiki code]] alternatives to use?  It is natural to presume that the wiki software will be either:


    #MediaWiki unmodified
    #[[MediaWiki]] unmodified
    #'''MediaWiki modified'''
    #'''[[MediaWiki modifications|MediaWiki modified]]'''
    #A fork of MediaWiki
    #[[GetWiki|A fork of MediaWiki, such as GetWiki]]
    #TikiWiki unmodified
    #[[TikiWiki]] unmodified
    #TikiWiki modified
    #TikiWiki modified
    #A fork of TikiWiki
    #A fork of TikiWiki
    #MoinMoinWiki extended
    #[[MoinMoinWiki]] extended
    #something else supporting [[ConsuML]]
    #something else supporting [[ConsuML]]


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    If a modified version will be used it makes sense to use many more namespaces to make the wiki more manageable, but on the other hand using standard MediaWiki has many advantages. Using unmodified MediaWiki would just require stricter syntax within the articles
    If a modified version will be used it makes sense to use many more namespaces to make the wiki more manageable, but on the other hand using standard MediaWiki has many advantages. Using unmodified MediaWiki would just require stricter syntax within the articles


    According to MediaWiki developers adding numerous namespaces is easy so here is a brief and uncomplete list of likely namespaces:
    According to MediaWiki developers adding numerous namespaces is easy so here is a brief and uncomplete list of likely namespaces. Using '''pseudo-namespaces''' might also be applicable:
    *[[Company]]:
    *[[Company]]:
    *[[Product]]:
    *[[Product]]:
    *[[Product Group]]:
    *[[Product Group]]:
    *[[Campaign]]
    *[[WorkDescription]]
     
    We need to start forming syntax for [[Consumerium:Intermediate pages|Intermediate pages]] to advance the launch of the Content Wiki
     


    We need to start forming templates to advance the launch of the Content Wiki:
    *[[Company template]]
    *[[Product template]]
    *[[ProductGroup template]]
    *[[Campaign template]]
    *[[WorkDescription template]]
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    ==Article Structure==
    ==Article Structure==


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    *Optional subarticles
    *Optional subarticles


    When thinking about companies an outline of subarticle structure might be something like
    When thinking about companies an outline of subarticle structure is discussed in [[Article structure]]
     
    * [[Company X]] - containing [[product group]]s, [[brand]]s, [[product]]s etc.
    * [[Company X/ids]] (mandatory) -  registered names, national registry numbers, d-u-n-s, stock symbols etc.
    * [[Company X/economy]] - subpaging further like [[Company X/economy/2003Q4]]
    * [[Company X/history]]
    * [[Company X/affiliated businesses]]
    * [[Company X/executives]]
    * [[Company X/advertising]]
    * [[Company X/labor practices]]
    * [[Company X/workplace upgrade requests]]
    * ...
    * ...


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    Writing explicit [[retail price]] information is not allowed in The Content Wiki. What is allowed is to make remarks that [[Company X]]'s (say some retail-chain in some country) pricing policy for [[product group]]s differs from market averages in one direction or the other.
    Writing explicit [[retail price]] information is not allowed in The Content Wiki. What is allowed is to make remarks that [[Company X]]'s (say some retail-chain in some country) pricing policy for [[product group]]s differs from market averages in one direction or the other.
    '''See:'''
    *[[Talk:Wiki Management]]
    *[[Consensus decision-making]]
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    Latest revision as of 15:53, 28 August 2004

    Is this the same as the Signal Wiki? If not, why not? What must be done to the data before it affects the Consumerium buying signal? And when?

    This page is not for actual content (i.e. do not attempt to classify CIV or Gus Kouwenhoven or what they are doing on this page) but for developing the syntax and governance of the Content Wiki so we can set one up.

    It also is not about opinions, (ie. Campaigns and split articles on aspects where factions do not agree), which go to Research Wiki aka Opinion Wiki where further research is performed. Whatever it is called, this consists of Consumerium:intermediate pages which are often debated.

    What is the Content Wiki?

    Content Wiki is where facts on products and companies and such will be stored when it gets built. Facts require more discipline than opinion wiki comments. When we say "fact" we mean instructional capital that all factions accept as "true" at least to the degree it is allowed to alter the Consumerium buying signal. Another proposed name for this is the Signal Wiki, which makes this relationship very clear.

    It will be a large public wiki with the special problems of that type of communication.

    The Consumerium Governance Organization and its delegated sysops will have to decide on what grounds each type of information is input, audited, linked, shared, duplicated, edited, contested, vetoed and removed and by whom.


    Wiki software for handling research

    To fork or not to fork that is the question. Which of the wiki code alternatives to use? It is natural to presume that the wiki software will be either:

    1. MediaWiki unmodified
    2. MediaWiki modified
    3. A fork of MediaWiki, such as GetWiki
    4. TikiWiki unmodified
    5. TikiWiki modified
    6. A fork of TikiWiki
    7. MoinMoinWiki extended
    8. something else supporting ConsuML

    Which one of these alternatives makes sense is an open question. A Wikitext standard would help. Metaweb is already on it.


    The relationship between Wiki and ConsuML information

    • Data stored as ConsuML documents could be used to generate stubs into the wiki on-demand
    • The parsing process goes the following way ConsuML data will be parsed to Wiki code in the appropriate natural language for each wiki, which then in turn will be parsed to HTML for the Consumer
    • The autogenerated protions will be enclosed with special tags such as <autogenerated></autogenerated>
    • Messing with the autogenerated portions manually better be justified
    • The ConsuML will act as a glue between The Consumerium Exchange and the Content Wiki. ConsuML will be used to verify what corresponds to what within The Exchange and between The Exchange and The Wiki

    Wiki Syntax

    If a modified version will be used it makes sense to use many more namespaces to make the wiki more manageable, but on the other hand using standard MediaWiki has many advantages. Using unmodified MediaWiki would just require stricter syntax within the articles

    According to MediaWiki developers adding numerous namespaces is easy so here is a brief and uncomplete list of likely namespaces. Using pseudo-namespaces might also be applicable:

    We need to start forming syntax for Intermediate pages to advance the launch of the Content Wiki



    Article Structure

    The Wiki approach and the original vision can be brought closer by using strictly named subarticles that are then collated into a viewable document on-demand for the consumer based on her/his preferences

    Advantages include:

    • Consumer can specify what information s/he wishes to view and in what order in each case
    • Good for internationalization since translation can progress subarticle-by-subarticle
    • Finer grained version control and approvance (signatures)
    • Performance gains over monolithic articles (?)
    • Good for maintaining historical information
    • Editors know where to find the portions they have most knowledge of
    • Useful for efficiently mixing autogenerated portions with manually edited ones
    • Less Wiki Veteran Annoyance due to quicker comprehension of small separate syntax guides instead of one big lump of do's and dont's

    Depending on the type of article there are varying needs of:

    • Mandatory subarticles
    • Optional subarticles

    When thinking about companies an outline of subarticle structure is discussed in Article structure

    • ...

    Governance

    We need a summarum of the currently existing Wiki Governance Practices here and study each one and the resulting model that we will use will likely be a synthesis of numerous existing models. Probably best to discuss at Metaweb where big geeks are. Also track Meta's power structure debates.

    Writing explicit retail price information is not allowed in The Content Wiki. What is allowed is to make remarks that Company X's (say some retail-chain in some country) pricing policy for product groups differs from market averages in one direction or the other.

    See:


    Interaction between other wikis containing related content?

    Background: There is already information on companies, brands, labels and such in Wikipedia and Disinfopedia.

    • How to avoid redundant copy-pasting between wikis?
    • How will the recording of information be coordinated to benefit the consumer in her/his search for knowldge on offered products?
    • The obivious thing that comes to mind would be to build an interwiki watchlist type of utility that would enable tracking changes to articles with matching article names across multiple wikis. This would most likely interest the editors of all the involved wikis.

    Other Open Questions

    How to handle the internationalization?

    Should all language versions strive to contain the same information or how should we go about this?

    How to handle a situation where the target of the article changes

    Situations like this include:

    • Product upgrades
    • Mergers