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    (some insights into this pilot arising from recent trolling by those apparently advancing Sysop Vandal point of view, e.g. of trollherds they blame for telling truth on Wikipedia and so on)
    (aren't actual destroyers of ecosystems, species, peoples, better targets than a trollherd, reputed or real? priorities, please)
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    Such a focused '''pilot''' that deliberately sought to gain both publicity and a meaningful test of how tough and sue-proof we can make our policies, would stress organizational issues central to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]].  We would identify the potential for being sued for [[diluting the trademark]], [[libel chill]], other more fatuous basis for [[lawsuit]]s and other potential problems.  At the very least we'd learn to process a [[cease and desist letter]] and send a polite response threatening total [[troll war]] against companies that lie about [[Consumerium]], followed by [[suing for funding]].
    Such a focused '''pilot''' that deliberately sought to gain both publicity and a meaningful test of how tough and sue-proof we can make our policies, would stress organizational issues central to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]].  We would identify the potential for being sued for [[diluting the trademark]], [[libel chill]], other more fatuous basis for [[lawsuit]]s and other potential problems.  At the very least we'd learn to process a [[cease and desist letter]] and send a polite response threatening total [[troll war]] against companies that lie about [[Consumerium]], followed by [[suing for funding]].


    In such [[pilot]] projects, often the users are chosen specifically to be difficult to support, if the anticipated issue of deployment is the variety of users, i.e. [[trolls]] especially [[funded troll]]s, in [[Research Wiki]] and in [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], and [[sysop vandalism]] advocates.  In September 2004, such advocates of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] seem to be republishing nonsense from that POV, e.g. the [[Craig Hubley]] article.  In some cases they have also indicated an interested in learning about [[trolling]] and declared it "fun".  This is all possibly a positive sign that at least some [[sysop vandal]]s can turn their hate towards companies or people that really deserve it, e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] rather than [[Craig Hubley]].
    In such [[pilot]] projects, often the users are chosen specifically to be difficult to support, if the anticipated issue of deployment is the variety of users, i.e. [[trolls]] especially [[funded troll]]s, in [[Research Wiki]] and in [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], and [[sysop vandalism]] advocates.  In September 2004, such advocates of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] seem to be republishing nonsense from that POV, e.g. the [[Craig Hubley]] article.  In some cases they have also indicated an interested in learning about [[trolling]] and declared it "fun".  This is all possibly a positive sign that at least some [[sysop vandal]]s can turn their hate towards companies or people that really deserve it, e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] rather than some [[trollherd]].


    To test the extent of these conflicts and the [[tit for tat]] tactics they engender, we need an actual [[Research Wiki]] up and running;  One with real [[intermediate page]]s that [[Consumerium:We|we]] can fight about.  Elements of this '''pilot''' include:
    To test the extent of these conflicts and the [[tit for tat]] tactics they engender, we need an actual [[Research Wiki]] up and running;  One with real [[intermediate page]]s that [[Consumerium:We|we]] can fight about.  Elements of this '''pilot''' include:

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    A Consumerium Research pilot would build an actual Research Wiki prototype with real intermediate pages describing real companies and their mis/behaviour. It would focus deliberately only on the worst behaviour by the most litigous companies, as a test of policies. If the pilot were to pass the scrutiny of lawyers for McDonald's and Monsanto and Disney (well known as the world's meanest!) and so on, it would be fairly likely that lawyers of other firms would have to lave us alone.

    Such a focused pilot that deliberately sought to gain both publicity and a meaningful test of how tough and sue-proof we can make our policies, would stress organizational issues central to Consumerium Governance Organization. We would identify the potential for being sued for diluting the trademark, libel chill, other more fatuous basis for lawsuits and other potential problems. At the very least we'd learn to process a cease and desist letter and send a polite response threatening total troll war against companies that lie about Consumerium, followed by suing for funding.

    In such pilot projects, often the users are chosen specifically to be difficult to support, if the anticipated issue of deployment is the variety of users, i.e. trolls especially funded trolls, in Research Wiki and in Consumerium Governance Organization, and sysop vandalism advocates. In September 2004, such advocates of the Sysop Vandal point of view seem to be republishing nonsense from that POV, e.g. the Craig Hubley article. In some cases they have also indicated an interested in learning about trolling and declared it "fun". This is all possibly a positive sign that at least some sysop vandals can turn their hate towards companies or people that really deserve it, e.g. Gus Kouwenhoven rather than some trollherd.

    To test the extent of these conflicts and the tit for tat tactics they engender, we need an actual Research Wiki up and running; One with real intermediate pages that we can fight about. Elements of this pilot include:

    group editing:

    funding and diligence:

    One output of such a pilot would be a decision whether to end Wikimedia or work to an negotiated settlement between trolls and Wikimedia regarding who controls the GFDL corpus and to what standards GFDL content will be held. For instance a fixed fee might be charged for every lie about Consumerium or its contributors that is published via Wikimedia forums. In return, Consumerium Governance Organization would agree not to sue for more damages.