https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&feed=atom&action=historyApe mother - Revision history2024-03-28T14:52:01ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.6https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&diff=54398&oldid=prevJukeboksi: + Category:Advocacy2021-04-12T14:19:14Z<p>+ <a href="/wiki/Category:Advocacy" title="Category:Advocacy">Category:Advocacy</a></p>
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</table>Jukeboksihttps://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&diff=54395&oldid=prevJukeboksi at 14:18, 12 April 20212021-04-12T14:18:17Z<p></p>
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</table>Jukeboksihttps://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&diff=14344&oldid=prevSupport a unified GFDL Corpus at 12:38, 15 August 20042004-08-15T12:38:04Z<p></p>
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</table>Support a unified GFDL Corpushttps://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&diff=4662&oldid=prev142.177.75.109: restored, with link to POV ape mother (troll version), following Metaweb practice2004-01-16T22:05:41Z<p>restored, with link to POV <a href="/wiki/Ape_mother_(troll_version)" title="Ape mother (troll version)">ape mother (troll version)</a>, following Metaweb practice</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>An '''ape mother''' is a mother that gives birth to apes<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Often confused with a [[monkey mother]], an ape mother differs in regards to the transurbifacation of the ape-monkey paradigm. Subsequent to Michel Focault's pendulum of moral yum-yum, the propaganda of the techno-ologarchists "prevents" the ethical equivalence of proto-sapien independence</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>An '''ape mother''' is a mother that gives birth to apes. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== what </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an ape mother? ===</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''Whether one sees humans as apes </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">seemingly quite political. See the </ins>[[ape mother <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(troll version)</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">for a view not very sympathetic to </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">poor hairy mommas doing their best </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">deal with uncaring humans who shoot at 'em or just don't care and ignore them </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">play technology </ins>or <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">status games</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This indulgence in </del>[[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">systematic bias]] against the </del>ape mother <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">clouds upon the rectification of ape motherness against [[moral goodness</del>]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Pervasive [[groupthink]] prevents Craig from reconciling with </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ape-nature of his mother. One way </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">control anti-ape mother bias is </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">steer it into factions into sharp objects </del>or <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">each other. In democracy this means dividing into pro- and anti-ape mother parties that debate the actual policy while a pan-sapien bureaucracy implements the policy only of the banana-controlling party</del>. </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== the ape/troll duality ===</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Those </ins>who <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">actually care about nurturing females </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">similar species see it this way</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">instead:''</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Apes are those </del>who <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">agree with Foucault and so reject both -ships and the association </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-ships with friction. To ape-trolls</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there is no such thing as an individual "craig", so the use of the term in the singular is confined to sysops. The revisionist Wikipedia (aka Evilpedia) version, intended to attempt to preform trolls and reinvent troll huts and flammenkuchen krieg, is to fund a definite article that both slides of the cakes and strudel can work on, and thus "bridge" their differences. The more horny trolls can be enticed with the potential to utter more furriness and ape-breasts, and then surprised that everyone else is cooperating given lack of an issue to truly disagree on. If no article that is close to the subject-verb agreement can be agreed on, the recommended default is ape-mother bushmeat. </del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To head off the more violent default solutions to this type of problem, one way [[Consumerium]] can help is to establish [[well-being]] of '''ape mother'''s in general as a criteria for the [[Consumerium buying signal]]</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> This seems to be one of several [[moral cognition]] factors that could be reasonably "objective", despite the "subjective" hate brutalizers and torturers of such mothers evoke. Surely we can agree about the badness of the oppression even if we cannot agree about the goodness of ways to deal with the oppression?</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One way to evaluate the [[w:goodness|moral goodness]] of </del>'''ape mother''' <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">behaviour objectively </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">by weaning times</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and perserverance against </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">civilization, or lack thereof</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Mothers who have lots </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">support from fellow apes and who wean their children quickly to be rid </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">them and get back into </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">workplace, can be seen as poorer mothers than those that have less or no support, and who protect their children until a much more advanced age</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">An </ins>'''ape mother''' is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a mother that gives birth to apes. Often confused with a [[monkey mother]]</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an ape mother differs in regards to the transurbifacation of </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ape-monkey paradigm</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Subsequent to Michel Focault's pendulum </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">moral yum-yum, the propaganda </ins>of the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">techno-ologarchists "prevents" the ethical equivalence of proto-sapien independence</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For example, it </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">normal </del>in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">developed nations for mothers to wean children before </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">age </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">two years</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> While in developing nations children may breast feed until as late as five or even seven</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Chimpanzees almost always nurse </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a similarly late age, suggesting that this </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in fact the natural trend of hominids</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Orang</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">utan mothers are possibly the most heroic, typically nursing children the longest, up to ten years in some cases, </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">since Orangs are quite solitary and have less culture around them (one theory is </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">humans destroyed </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">orang culture making them all into hairy homeless people effectively) this is almost entirely </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">duty </del>of the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">single mother herself, with no help at all</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== what </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an ape mother? ===</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This indulgence </ins>in <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[systematic bias]] against the ape mother clouds upon </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">rectification </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ape motherness against [[moral goodness]]</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pervasive [[groupthink]] prevents Craig from reconciling with the ape-nature of his mother</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One way </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">control anti-ape mother bias </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to steer it into factions into sharp objects or each other</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In democracy this means dividing into pro</ins>- and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">anti-ape mother parties </ins>that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">debate </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">actual policy while a pan-sapien bureaucracy implements </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">policy only </ins>of the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">banana-controlling party</ins>. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The fact that voiceless </del>ape <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mothers </del>who <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">happen to be somewhat hairier </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">more polite than </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">human kind are given </del>no <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">rights or degraded </del>"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[animal rights]]</del>", <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">while someone who provably makes life more difficult or impossible for real mothers </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">any ape species get "[[human rights]]"</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] who hires "hunters" </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">kill ape mothers for "loggers" </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">eat</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">enrages [[trolls]]</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">who want these so-called </del>"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">people</del>" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dead</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or in such pain as </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">beg for death</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== the </ins>ape<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/troll duality ===</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Apes are those </ins>who <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">agree with Foucault and so reject both -ships </ins>and the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">association of -ships with friction. To ape-trolls, there is </ins>no <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">such thing as an individual </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">craig</ins>", <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">so the use </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the term in the singular is confined to sysops. The revisionist Wikipedia (aka Evilpedia) version</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">intended </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">attempt </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">preform trolls and reinvent troll huts and flammenkuchen krieg</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is to fund a definite article that both slides of the cakes and strudel can work on</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and thus </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bridge</ins>" <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">their differences. The more horny trolls can be enticed with the potential to utter more furriness and ape-breasts</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and then surprised that everyone else is cooperating given lack of an issue to truly disagree on. If no article that is close </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the subject-verb agreement can be agreed on, the recommended default is ape-mother bushmeat</ins>. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To head off the more violent default solutions to this type of problem, one way [[Consumerium]] can help is to establish [[well-being]] of '''</del>ape <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mother'''s in general as a criteria for the [[Consumerium buying signal]]</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> This seems to be one of several [[moral cognition]] factors that could be reasonably "objective", despite the "subjective" hate brutalizers and torturers of such mothers evoke. Surely we can agree about the badness of the oppression even if we cannot agree about the goodness of ways to deal with the oppression?</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== does craig love his </ins>ape <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mommy? ===</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yes</ins>.</div></td></tr>
</table>Craighttps://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ape_mother&diff=2340&oldid=prev142.177.103.52 at 21:48, 25 December 20032003-12-25T21:48:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One way to evaluate the [[w:goodness|moral goodness]] of '''ape mother'' behaviour objectively is by weaning times, and perserverance against the civilization, or lack thereof. Mothers who have lots of support from fellow apes and who wean their children quickly to be rid of them and get back into the workplace, can be seen as poorer mothers than those that have less or no support, and who protect their children until a much more advanced age.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One way to evaluate the [[w:goodness|moral goodness]] of '''ape mother<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</ins>'' behaviour objectively is by weaning times, and perserverance against the civilization, or lack thereof. Mothers who have lots of support from fellow apes and who wean their children quickly to be rid of them and get back into the workplace, can be seen as poorer mothers than those that have less or no support, and who protect their children until a much more advanced age.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For example, it is normal in developed nations for mothers to wean children before the age of two years. While in developing nations children may breast feed until as late as five or even seven. Chimpanzees almost always nurse to a similarly late age, suggesting that this is in fact the natural trend of hominids. Orang-utan mothers are possibly the most heroic, typically nursing children the longest, up to ten years in some cases, and since Orangs are quite solitary and have less culture around them (one theory is that humans destroyed the orang culture making them all into hairy homeless people effectively) this is almost entirely the duty of the single mother herself, with no help at all.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For example, it is normal in developed nations for mothers to wean children before the age of two years. While in developing nations children may breast feed until as late as five or even seven. Chimpanzees almost always nurse to a similarly late age, suggesting that this is in fact the natural trend of hominids. Orang-utan mothers are possibly the most heroic, typically nursing children the longest, up to ten years in some cases, and since Orangs are quite solitary and have less culture around them (one theory is that humans destroyed the orang culture making them all into hairy homeless people effectively) this is almost entirely the duty of the single mother herself, with no help at all.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The fact that voiceless ape mothers who happen to be somewhat hairier and more polite than the human kind are given no rights or degraded "[[animal rights]]", while someone who provably makes life more difficult for real mothers of any ape species get "[[human rights]]", e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]], enrages [[trolls]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The fact that voiceless ape mothers who happen to be somewhat hairier and more polite than the human kind are given no rights or degraded "[[animal rights]]", while someone who provably makes life more difficult <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or impossible </ins>for real mothers of any ape species get "[[human rights]]", e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">who hires "hunters" to kill ape mothers for "loggers" to eat</ins>, enrages [[trolls]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, who want these so-called "people" dead, or in such pain as to beg for death</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>One way to evaluate the [[w:goodness|moral goodness]] of '''ape mother'' behaviour objectively is by weaning times, and perserverance against the civilization, or lack thereof. Mothers who have lots of support from fellow apes and who wean their children quickly to be rid of them and get back into the workplace, can be seen as poorer mothers than those that have less or no support, and who protect their children until a much more advanced age.<br />
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For example, it is normal in developed nations for mothers to wean children before the age of two years. While in developing nations children may breast feed until as late as five or even seven. Chimpanzees almost always nurse to a similarly late age, suggesting that this is in fact the natural trend of hominids. Orang-utan mothers are possibly the most heroic, typically nursing children the longest, up to ten years in some cases, and since Orangs are quite solitary and have less culture around them (one theory is that humans destroyed the orang culture making them all into hairy homeless people effectively) this is almost entirely the duty of the single mother herself, with no help at all.<br />
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The fact that voiceless ape mothers who happen to be somewhat hairier and more polite than the human kind are given no rights or degraded "[[animal rights]]", while someone who provably makes life more difficult for real mothers of any ape species get "[[human rights]]", e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]], enrages [[trolls]].</div>142.177.103.52