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== [[User:103.52.220.45]] reported by [[User:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E]] (Result: User blocked for 72 hours for behavior) ==
== [[User:Ergzay]] reported by [[User:Rahio1234]] (Result: Reporter warned) ==


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Talk:Arvind Kejriwal}} <br />
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Wikipedia:Sandbox}}
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|103.52.220.45}}


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ergzay}}
'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arvind_Kejriwal&oldid=1218577819]

'''Previous version reverted to:'''


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arvind_Kejriwal&diff=prev&oldid=1220843014]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arvind_Kejriwal&diff=prev&oldid=1220853095]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arvind_Kejriwal&diff=prev&oldid=1221232231]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arvind_Kejriwal&diff=prev&oldid=1221234605]




'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''




'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.52.220.45&diff=prev&oldid=1221234033]


'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.52.220.45&diff=next&oldid=1221234280]


<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.52.220.45&diff=prev&oldid=1221236035]


User readded edit. [[User:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">Rah</span>''']][[User_talk:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#0026FF;">io</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#007F0E;">1234</span>''']] 10:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />


:@[[User:Rahio1234|Rahio1234]] Seems to be repeatedly trying to prevent the normal use of the wikipedia sandbox by reverting any changes made to it. Please give them a warning and instructions on proper use of the wikipedia sandbox. They also have extreme english difficulty as they could not explain why they kept reverting any changes made to the sandbox. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 10:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Has also edited as [[Special:Contributions/2409:40E1:29:4983:6485:60FF:FEA4:F17B|2409:40E1:29:4983:6485:60FF:FEA4:F17B]] and [[Special:Contributions/2409:40E1:1073:8531:2CB1:AFF:FE4B:B3FA|2409:40E1:1073:8531:2CB1:AFF:FE4B:B3FA]]
:Additionally, I gave them a warning on their talk page about edit warring, but they promptly removed it:
:{{AN3|d}} Complaining about potential bias in the article is ''not'' "expressing [their] feelings", it's well within the scope of the quoted talk page guidelines. They should have been engaged on this or left alone; either option would have avoided an edit war. As it is, reverting constantly on dubious grounds gives him the basis for at least a superficial claim to be right when he says he's being censored. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 18:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:See edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rahio1234&diff=prev&oldid=1226549774 [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 10:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:Daniel Case]] is [[WP:3RR]] not a bright line? [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E|talk]]) 18:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:I have cleared out my talk page of this junk that was added by rahio1234, to see it as it was before the removal see: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ergzay&oldid=1226549960 [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::In this case [[WP:IAR|it's arguable to me]] that, even though you may not have consciously been trying, you provoked him into it and so I will not reward you for doing this. Not when they were well within their rights ... in fact, he'd be on better ground reporting ''you'' for repeatedly reverting a legitimate edit.
::@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] i ask the [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]]. [[User:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">Rah</span>''']][[User_talk:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#0026FF;">io</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#007F0E;">1234</span>''']] 10:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::And [[WP:3RRNO|there ''are'' exceptions to 3RR]]. Just so you know. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 18:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::What is "the Bbb23"? [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 10:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::[[User:Daniel Case]] I'm well aware of [[WP:3RRNO]], no exception was cited and none applied, and if you believe otherwise please state which one and why. Saying that I provoked someone without a diff link is an [[WP:ASPERSION]], I never once even edited [[Talk:Arvind Kejriwal]] to revert or otherwise, please strike or substantiate with a diff. Finally I think [[User:EvergreenFir]] would be quite surprised to hear that called a legitimate edit, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Being right does not excuse violating [[WP:3RR]] as you well know and that is rock-bottom policy. If you want to cite [[WP:IAR]], then cite IAR but don't cloak it in something else, and don't accuse people of baiting without evidence. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D10:ED34:8A2B:CE7E|talk]]) 18:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::This admin. [[User:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">Rah</span>''']][[User_talk:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#0026FF;">io</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#007F0E;">1234</span>''']] 10:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::<s>Now ''you''{{'}}re the one casting aspersions.</s> I gave you the out that you might not have been aware that could happen. Sometimes no direct action is necessary to provoke someone ... if it were, we'd probably live in a generally better world. Accept that you're not perfect and that you, like everyone else, can upset people without meaning to or being aware that you did.
:::::So you asked this admin how to use the sandbox? Or do you mean you asked the admin on if I was misusing the sandbox? [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 10:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::<s>But, no, you have reacted as if I unambiguously accused you of willfully provoking him, and the vehemence of your reaction now makes me wonder if you indeed ''were'' trying to get them to edit war ...</s> I mean, maybe, just ''maybe'', you or someone else could have responded to their responses on their talk page asking for specifics about what policy they had fallen afoul of (besides [[WP:TALK#POSITIVE]], which is stated as a "should", not a must, and seems to me to have been a stretch here). Or, more to the point, what specific instances of bias they could point to. You'd be surprised, I would imagine, how often that works to cool things down. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 19:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I'll also mention the two people who have blocked you previously @[[User:331dot|331dot]] and @[[User:Drmies|Drmies]]. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 11:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::[[User:Daniel Case]] I never once linked [[WP:TALK#POSITIVE]] in any of my responses, and I was very specific in linking to [[WP:3RR]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.52.220.45&diff=prev&oldid=1221234281] note I should not be the one providing diffs here, ''you'' should be the one providing diff when making accusations. You previously wrote in this very thread without linking a single diff that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=1221240145 you provoked him into it and so I will not reward you for doing this], which is a false [[WP:ASPERSION]] and unacceptable [[WP:PA]], I asked you to provide a diff or strike it which you still have not done. You also accused me of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=1221240145 repeatedly reverting a legitimate edit.] which is not true, and again without diffs. That is absolutely unacceptable and I renew my request for you to strike. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 20:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Since the situation has led to a block on different grounds, and as I said below that makes most of our discussion moot, I certainly will (It would be nice if you did too, though). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 20:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{U|Rahio1234}}, the Wikipedia sandbox has instructions on how it may be used and a list of things it cannot be used for (material that is "promotional, copyrighted, offensive, or libelous"). Are you claiming that {{U|Ergzay}} is posting material that falls into that list?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 12:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] Ok. [[User:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">Rah</span>''']][[User_talk:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#0026FF;">io</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#007F0E;">1234</span>''']] 13:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I certainly didn't intend to provide false information, but which words specifically are you requesting me to strike? [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 20:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, how about you insert a note clarifying that other editors, not you, made the reverts?<p>I apologize for the confusion whereby I thought you had been the one making the reverts, as very often that's how things work out in reports here. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 20:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*::{{re|Rahio1234}} That is not an answer. This report is an abuse of process, which is probably not intentional but rather demonstrates [[WP:CIR|incompetence]] both in the bringing of it and how you've handled it after it was brought. You are therefore '''warned''' that any continuation of this kind of disruptive conduct will result in a block without any additional notice.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
*:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] Can you do something more than a warning? He's been blocked several times before for other things. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 13:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::I have mentioned that on multiple occaisons, first one diff linked below already, what is so hard about striking "he'd be on better ground reporting you for repeatedly reverting a legitimate edit." and "You provoked him into it and so I will not reward you for doing this" both of which are false. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 20:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] The only thing I posted was a copy paste of a talk page that I was trying to figure out why the build-in "Reply" button didn't work and just gave errors. Rahio1234 immediately came along and started repeatedly reverting my changes in the middle of my testing and then sending me repeated automated warnings via Twinkle when I ignored him and continued editing. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 13:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Not attempting to be difficult, condescending or snarky here, but as true genuine well-intentioned advice, please slow down. If you are going so fast on these you are losing track of who is who in a discussion, you really need to recalibrate, there is rarely a level of urgency that requires action without sortinhg things out in your head at least a little. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 21:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*::{{re|Ergzay}} AFAIK, the Wikipedia sandbox may be reset at any time by any editor and is frequently reset automatically by a bot. I suggest you use your own sandbox if you want the material to remain for you to work on and review.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::'''Addendum'''. It seems the user is {{AN3|ab|72 hours}}, without talk page access, by {{noping|EvergreenFir}} for the incivility and [[WP:BATTLEGROUND|battleground mentality]] they displayed when, in fact, engaged on the issues I touched on above. Fine; I have no quarrel with this block. Had I ''known'' about it, had it been ''mentioned'' in the report above, I would have blocked and we would not have needed to have this discussion.<p>Nonetheless, my point still stands: Just because someone doesn't come to a talk page with a positive attitude to the article does not give you the right to revert away. An unspecific accusation of bias is still a legitimate subject for talk page discussion, although I admit that for them to demand you apologize before they give you answers is a ''bit'' presumptuous. And their attitude to EvergreenFir post-block entirely justifies revoking talk page access. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 19:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*:::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] Thank you. Still user @[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] was not edit this wikipedia namespace [[User:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">Rah</span>''']][[User_talk:Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#0026FF;">io</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Rahio1234|'''<span style="color:#007F0E;">1234</span>''']] 13:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::They had not yet been blocked when I filed this report, something easily verifiable with log entries and time stamps, and I never ''once'' reverted them. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 20:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::OK, but to be fair you made the report and didn't clarify that until now. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 20:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*::::{{re|Rahio1234}} I don't understand what you're trying to say.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
*:::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] He thinks you're telling me off about how I was using sandbox. Also, for the record, I wasn't trying to make the sandbox stick around. He would literally revert my changes less than a minute after I made them, over and over again. Just look at the edit log. I really think something more than a warning should be given. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 18:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::My presumption is that when these reports are filed it is the duty of the responding admin to investigate the situation, check all the linked diffs and respond accordingly. As for clarifying that I was not involved in editing that page, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=1221241590 I did that already]. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 20:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*:::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] Also he's still repeatedly resetting other people's test pages every chance he gets on the sandbox. See the additional people complaining on his talk page. I'd prefer we didn't have to create another ANI entry for this subject. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 18:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::I checked the linked diffs and found them, by themselves, an insufficient basis for a block (and if that had been all there was to it, I still would). You took exception in what I considered to be an unduly confrontational tone, suggesting to me that ''you'' had been the one to make the reverts and then come here, as often happens; it's not unusual for reporters to not take it well when the report gets declined (and I grant that here I did make a onetime exception to 3RR, so yes, some explanation was needed). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 21:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Well then maybe we are starting to get on the same page now. I don't ''mind'' declined reports. But if someone violates a brightline, as [[WP:3RR]] is, then there should be an accompanying explanation, even if only "per [[WP:IAR]]", I do not see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=1221237900 this] as even remotely confrontational, that tone shift only happened later, it was IMO a very gentle request for you to clarify your decision making under [[WP:ADMINACCT]], and I would hope that if this occurs in the future that you will respond with more deliberation [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=1221240145 than happened this time]. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 21:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Well, if we ''hadn't'' been going back and forth here, ''maybe'' someone (not necessarily you) could have added information about the block. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 20:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Fair, might have been better done at one of our user talk pages on reflection. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E|talk]]) 21:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Agreed {{smiley}}. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 21:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Or-Shalem]] reported by [[User:M.Bitton]] (Result: Page extended-confirmed protected, user partially blocked for 2 weeks) ==
With a day's reflection and review, I have considered that I took umbrage at what I considered to be (and still would) the wrong reason to revert someone's talk page comments, and did not review them when you challenged me on why I declined the report so that I would have realized you were not taking responsibility for the actions of others. I acted rashly, negligently made some accusations against you that were properly directed at others, and caused needless drama, which did not become any less needless when the reported IP was blocked for his incivility and [[WP:TE|tendentiousness]].


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Moroccanoil}}
I therefore invite you, {{u|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:94AE:92D3:8121:F39E}}, to [[WP:TROUT|trout]] me here (as you would not be able to do it at my talk page since I semi-protected it a long time ago). I will also be suspending myself from reviewing reports here for a few days and requiring myself to do something boring and tedious yet utterly necessary and requiring the administrative bit in its stead (Probably [[WP:MITC|MITC]] ... haven't done that for a long time, and there's a backlog). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Or-Shalem}}
:[[User:Daniel Case]] consider yourself trouted. As far as slip-ups go it was one with relatively minor consequence. I have a pretty thick skin and this is not by a long-shot the most outlandish set of accusations thrown my way. I don't think you necessarily need to take a break here, just make a little mental note to slow down the next time, and I have made mistakes from going to fast myself.
:The irony is that I deliberately chose to report here as opposed to AIV or ANI because the rest of the situation was a bit muddy, while violations of 3RR are unambiguous. I was hoping to get them to do some reading so they would self-revert or refactor as the case for outright removal was not entirely clear, and once a 4th revert was made, requesting a short-duration page block expressly made for that sole reason seemed like the best way to end disruption without dissecting whether the edit was legitimate or not. Obviously that did not go as planned, but that's Wikipedia for ya.
:I appreciate the apology though, and I welcome future collaboration where our interests happen to coincide. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D2B:A3F8:49AF:6545|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D2B:A3F8:49AF:6545]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D2B:A3F8:49AF:6545|talk]]) 03:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
== [[User:EpicAdventurer]] reported by [[User:KoA]] (Result: Warned user(s)) ==


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Nicola Sturgeon}} <br />
# {{diff|oldid=1226625775|diff=1226634597|label=Consecutive edits made from 22:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 22:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|EpicAdventurer}}
## {{diff2|1226634310|22:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "I removed the poor sources and added some better ones. I read through all the articles. Nothing here justifies calling the company "Israeli." Even saying it was founded by an Israeli couple is dubious as none of the articles here even mention that Carmen is Israeli. We don't know if she is. The current info is objective and matter-of-fact, as supported by all sources. Do not change until admin comes."
## {{diff2|1226634597|22:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff2|1226625502|21:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Reverted 1 edit by [[Special:Contributions/M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]): Because it's subjective"
# {{diff2|1226624918|21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "infobox fixed. neutral info restored. wait til admin gets here"
# {{diff2|1226623034|20:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1226615469 by [[Special:Contributions/Or-Shalem|Or-Shalem]] ([[User talk:Or-Shalem|talk]]): Can you wait for the admin you contacted to moderate this discussion, please? I don't instants why you are so desperate to force an inference in the opener"
# {{diff|oldid=1226614492|diff=1226615469|label=Consecutive edits made from 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
## {{diff2|1226615440|19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Actually the sources linking the company to New York City is not acceptable per Wikipedia standards. The sources don't claim it was founded in Tel Aviv, nor Montreal. And once again, calling it an "Israeli company" is your interpretation."
## {{diff2|1226615469|19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff|oldid=1226609049|diff=1226613338|label=Consecutive edits made from 19:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 19:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
## {{diff2|1226612626|19:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Reverted 1 edit by [[Special:Contributions/IvanScrooge98|IvanScrooge98]] ([[User talk:IvanScrooge98|talk]]): Man stop edit warring. Do NOT revert this again until we resolve this in the talk page. You are doing this in bad faith."
## {{diff2|1226613026|19:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "This is indesputable. What you had before wasn't."
## {{diff2|1226613239|19:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} ""
## {{diff2|1226613338|19:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff2|1226608949|18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Reverted 1 edit by [[Special:Contributions/IvanScrooge98|IvanScrooge98]] ([[User talk:IvanScrooge98|talk]]): Edit warrior. Stop. This is not a constructive edit, and just because it is sourced does not make it acceptable. This is bad faith and does not paint the full picture of the company."
# {{diff2|1226607346|18:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1226519945 by [[Special:Contributions/Or-Shalem|Or-Shalem]] ([[User talk:Or-Shalem|talk]]): Edit warriors"
# {{diff|oldid=1226475555|diff=1226519945|label=Consecutive edits made from 04:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 04:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
## {{diff2|1226519098|04:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "I did look at the talk page. It's still a dubious claim, given what the sources are stating. This is not objective. Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1226475555|1226475555]] by [[Special:Contributions/20WattSphere|20WattSphere]] ([[User talk:20WattSphere|talk]])"
## {{diff2|1226519945|04:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "there i hope this is an acceptable compromise for you. i contributed to the talk page for your convenience. I don't personally like the way the sentence I edited is worded "Israeli then-husband" is weird, but it's less objectionable then what was there before."


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicola_Sturgeon&oldid=1221183432]
# {{diff2|1226625801|21:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on [[:Moroccanoil]]."


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
# [[User_talk:Or-Shalem#Moroccanoil]]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicola_Sturgeon&diff=prev&oldid=1221284969]
# [[User_talk:Or-Shalem#May_2024]]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicola_Sturgeon&diff=prev&oldid=1221356250]
# [[Talk:Moroccanoil]]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicola_Sturgeon&diff=prev&oldid=1221357582]


<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EpicAdventurer&diff=prev&oldid=1221358100]
*Please note that parts of the article that are edit warring on fall under the [[WP:ARBPIA]] restrictions (they have been made aware of this). [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|p}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|pb|2 weeks}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Mypthegoat]] reported by [[User:Left guide]] (Result: Blocked 48 hours) ==
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nicola_Sturgeon&oldid=1221407234#Her_personal_life]


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Luka Dončić}} <br />
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EpicAdventurer&diff=prev&oldid=1221417989]
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Mypthegoat}}

'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&oldid=1226638182]

'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&diff=prev&oldid=1226513375 Original addition]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&diff=prev&oldid=1226524819 1st revert]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&diff=prev&oldid=1226608316 2nd revert]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&diff=prev&oldid=1226636363 3rd revert]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luka_Dončić&diff=prev&oldid=1226638517 4th revert]


<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
This almost could be more of an ANI question, but bringing this here since it deals mostly with edit warring. The above last incident isn't a brightline crossing of 3RR inserting new content in three times instead of four, but there's a underlying combative edit warring issue becoming more apparent in this most recent topic I'm hoping can be addressed here.


I first came across this relatively new account when they violated 1RR over at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chlormequat&diff=prev&oldid=1207869574][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chlormequat&diff=prev&oldid=1208673415][[Chlormequat]]. I alerted them to that on their talk, but it was promptly deleted with no response.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EpicAdventurer&diff=next&oldid=1208727911] About a month later, they were warned for behavior at a BLP, which they reverted saying it was nonsense.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EpicAdventurer&diff=prev&oldid=1213516413]


'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mypthegoat&diff=prev&oldid=1226632284]
Come to their editing today at Nicola Sturgeon. After the reverts, [[User:Czello|Czello]] warned them about 3RR, which as again promptly deleted.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EpicAdventurer&diff=next&oldid=1221358100] The escalation here though is EpicAdventurer then went to Czello's page saying {{tq|Don't post nonsense on my talk page again. You were the one who started reverting and you should have opened a discussion the first time.}}[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Czello&oldid=1221360615#Message] when the [[WP:ONUS]] was instead on EpicAdventurer and they kept inserting content that appears to have [[WP:BLP]] issues about the subject being a "secret lesbian" based on the talk page. If it were just the Sturgeon edits in isolation, I probably would have left it be seeing as they stopped, but the previous history and the comments at Czello's page show an editor not wanting to [[WP:IDHT|hear]] about behavior issues related to edit warring that are quickly dismissed. There's a combativeness in their responses to almost any editor dealing with this and pushing reverts as far as they can it seems even though 3RR doesn't mean you have permission to revert up to that many times. I opened this hoping admins might get a little more traction getting across to EpicAdventurer now rather than it escalating in future articles considering how addressing the issues at their talk page seems to be an exhausted option when it always results in a response of addressing their behavior as {{tq|nonsense}}. Thanks. [[User:KoA|KoA]] ([[User talk:KoA|talk]]) 20:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|w}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 22:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)


'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' This type of edit has been the subject of editorial controversy across multiple related articles in the NBA project, so there is open ongoing discussion at [[WT:NBA#Conference finals mvp]] to resolve the content dispute, which I mentioned in both my edit summary and the user's talk page.
== [[User:AusLondonder]] reported by [[User:Burt Harris]] (Result: Declined – malformed report) ==


'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mypthegoat&diff=prev&oldid=1226640631]
'''Page:''' Suzette Kent <br />
'''User being reported:''' User:AusLondonder


<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
User continues to edit-war in the NBA Conference Finals MVP award into the infobox even though they have been reverted by a total of three different editors. [[User:Left guide|Left guide]] ([[User talk:Left guide|talk]]) 23:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Investigating a proposed deletion of an article, I checked this users talk page, it seems to be have a number of warnings about disruptive editing. I've responded both on their talk page, and in the article's talk page.


:Then don’t revert the edit I made what’s so hard to not understand. I already made my explanation. The player has won the Conference Finals MVP and award should be included in Career Awards and Achievements part. I checked the talk page and consensus been saying yes it should be included too. Jaylen Brown has already that award in their bio too. I mean there’s a sentence which says for Luka Doncic in his wiki page that he won the award yesterday but we can’t show it on his career awards part. Make it make sense. [[User:Mypthegoat|Mypthegoat]] ([[User talk:Mypthegoat|talk]]) 23:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
I don't participate much in this sort of debate, but I certainly can't see any basis for the proposal to delete the article.
*{{AN3|b|48 hours}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 02:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:2.26.151.114]] reported by [[User:Austronesier]] (Result: Blocked from article for one month and alerted to CTOPS) ==
[[User:Burt Harris|Burt Harris]] ([[User talk:Burt Harris|talk]]) 20:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|mr}} [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:*{{re|Burt Harris}} I've already declined this as malformed, but now that I look more closely at it, what on earth does your complaint have to do with edit-warring?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:*:This is a truly shocking abuse of process {{u|Burt Harris}}. Not only did you ignore the very clear direction to notify me of this report, but you've literally made up an allegation of edit-warring with absolutely no basis whatsoever. I have made ONE edit to the page in question. I was expecting you to be a new editor given this shambolic behaviour, but 18 years? Seriously? The "disruptive editing" you refer to [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AusLondonder&diff=1221420587&oldid=1221415918&title=User_talk%3AAusLondonder&diffonly=1 at my talkpage was normal in process deletion nominations objected to be a creator]. You should be sanctioned for this blatantly unacceptable behaviour. [[User:AusLondonder|AusLondonder]] ([[User talk:AusLondonder|talk]]) 11:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Cushitic-speaking peoples}}
== [[User:DemoJoker47]] reported by [[User:Ferret]] (Result: blocked 24 hours) ==


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2.26.151.114}}
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Fallout (American TV series)}}

'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|DemoJoker47}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''Previous version reverted to:'''


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# {{diff2|1226712265|10:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Stop removing cited content. This article is about Cushitic ethnic groups and where they inhabit. I see what you’re doing here"
# {{diff2|1221432368|22:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "I saw you said that metacritic said generally favorable but if I'm correct, Rotten Tomatos gets the percentage of reviews from crictics all across the world and ratios them to postitive versus negative reviews and the same thing you did to last of us."
# {{diff2|1221427144|21:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "I don't understand go and look at the last of us. Wikipedia's purpose is to benefit readers by presenting informatio"
# {{diff2|1226653803|01:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "If we’re not going to use [[Somali Peninsula]] then this should not be removed either"
# {{diff2|1226652985|01:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "This is valid too"
# {{diff2|1221424962|21:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Ok can you do me a favor because I don't want to manual input every critic source but if you go to rotten tomatos there is a see full review feature so click on that and source render it and put it in Critical response also it is 93% that is not generally positive."
# {{diff2|1226646925|00:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Talk page. Stop removing cited sources. Somalis are the most prominent Cushitic ethnic group out of all the ethnic group in this article. There is a whole nation named after [[Somalia]]. The [[Wikipedia:Notability]] policy fully supports this too. You kept on removing this content the other day stating it was unsourced and now you don’t find it relevant? The academic sources are there"
# {{diff2|1221412179|19:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "They are in Reception or more specifically Critical response. Please take a look at other projects as last of us is at a 96% while fallout is at a 93%. Both were met with critical acclaim. As projects like those are impressive to make while being very good."
# {{diff2|1221409334|19:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "The sources have already be referenced and I read them also look at The last of us and look at this one."


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
# {{diff2|1221428680|21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on [[:Fallout (American TV series)]]."
# {{diff2|1226665733|03:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on [[:Cushitic-speaking people]]."
# {{diff2|1226666196|03:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "/* June 2024 */"


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
See [[Talk:Cushitic-speaking_peoples#Somalis,_Somalia]].
# {{diff2|1221428963|21:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "/* "Critical acclaim" */ Reply"


<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
<u>'''Comments:'''</u>


The IP editor has been edit-warring about this even though there is an ongoing discussion in [[Talk:Cushitic-speaking peoples]] about their proposed additions. They also accuse other editors who disagree with their POV of [[Anti-Somali sentiment]] which reinforces the impression that they are not willing to contribute in a collaborative way. [[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 11:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm INVOLVED, so coming to the notice board. User is at 5-6 reverts currently against multiple editors and a previously diffused edit war (with talk page) from a few weeks ago. User was pinged to that discussion and made another revert against that consensus afterwards. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 22:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)


I agree that some level of administrative action is needed: probably a page ban. The back-&-forths have been going on for twelve days now. The IP editor has only engaged others on the Talk page when their edits have been reverted, and has been unwilling to accept that others are engaging in good faith. At this point, I think a resolution through discussion is unlikely. [[User:Pathawi|Pathawi]] ([[User talk:Pathawi|talk]]) 13:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b|24 hours}}. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 23:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{AN3|b|one month}} from the article. Since they had not been alerted to it being in a [[WP:CTOPS|contentious topic]] area ([[WP:CT/HORN|HORN]]), I have also done that as well as put a CTOPS notice on the article talk page. For these reasons this will be a regular administrative action that can be appealed through the usual process and reversed by any other admin. Should this user attempt to evade this block, or continue this behavior after it expires, CTOPS should be invoked. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 18:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::This is so absurd it’s almost funny. The article is about Cushitic ethnic groups and where they reside. By going through the conversations on the talkpage you’ll see it, even the edit summaries. It’s so hypocritical how the dispute went from “unsourced” to “irrelevant” when the sources were brought. @[[User:Cookiemonster1618|Cookiemonster1618]] 😂😂😂 [[Special:Contributions/2.26.151.114|2.26.151.114]] ([[User talk:2.26.151.114|talk]]) 20:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::This is why you were blocked because your replies indicate that your ignorant of wikipedia's editing policies, despite multiple times me explaining it to you, that your edits are not relevant to this article. [[User:Cookiemonster1618|Cookiemonster1618]] ([[User talk:Cookiemonster1618|talk]]) 20:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Somalis are not relevant to an article about Cushitic ethnic groups? Visit these pages and learn about Somali DNA [[Cushitic ancestry]] & [[Haplogroup E-M215]]. Have a look at the map of where Cushitic ethnic groups are concentrated aswell please. Somalis are definitely not irrelevant. I assure you. [[Special:Contributions/2.26.151.114|2.26.151.114]] ([[User talk:2.26.151.114|talk]]) 20:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::This has nothing to do with the content of your edits, and ''everything'' to do with how you made them. When something is under discussion at the talk page, and you ''know'' you're right and the other user or users are obtuse and/or dumber than a wet rock, [[WP:QUO|you leave the text in the article alone until the discussion is resolved]], even [https://xkcd.com/386/ if that text being in the article keeps you from sleeping well].<p>BTW, can we assume from your continued presence here that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.26.151.114&diff=prev&oldid=1226785033 this declaration of yours] is no longer operative? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 19:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:ShartyTheMarty]] reported by [[User:Lemonaka]] (Result: Blocked indef) ==
== [[User:George Voinescu]] reported by [[User:CanonNi]] (Result: Blocked for 60 hours) ==


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Lena Raine ‎}}
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Maria-Ana Tupan}}


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|ShartyTheMarty}}
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|George Voinescu}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''Previous version reverted to:'''


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# {{diff2|1221436800|23:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1221436553|1221436553]] by [[Special:Contributions/Laura240406|Laura240406]] ([[User talk:Laura240406|talk]])"
# {{diff2|1226853198|06:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1226852838|1226852838]] by [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|CanonNi]] ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]])If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
# {{diff2|1226852552|06:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)}} "If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
# {{diff2|1221436338|23:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1221436213|1221436213]] by [[Special:Contributions/Laura240406|Laura240406]] ([[User talk:Laura240406|talk]])"
# {{diff2|1226852219|06:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)}} "If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
# {{diff2|1221435655|22:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "A minor edit, a grammatical error was made."
# {{diff2|1226851502|06:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1226850514|1226850514]] by [[Special:Contributions/Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]])Maintenance templates are not meant to be in articles permanently. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
# {{diff2|1221435134|22:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "A few grammatical errors were fixed."


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
# {{diff2|1221437961|23:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on [[:Lena Raine]]."
# {{diff2|1226852437|06:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)}} "Caution: Removal of maintenance templates ([[w:en:WP:UV|UV 0.1.5]])"


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
# {{diff2|1226725277|12:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Message to CanonNi */ Reply"



<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
<u>'''Comments:'''</u>


COI issues again. Bringing up this issue to a noticeboard for the third time, after [[WP:COIN#Maria-Ana Tupan|COIN]] and [[WP:ANI#Maria-Ana Tupan|ANI]] both failed. SPA removing the {{tl|autobiography}} tag, possible sock of {{user|ForTupan}}. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 06:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Obviously, [[WP:SPA]], likely [[user:188.69.3.160]] [[user:Lemonaka‎|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:jet 0 0.2em 0.2em; font-family:Segoe Print; font-size: 13px">-Lemonaka‎</span>]] 23:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b}} indefinitely. Definitely an SPA. I have zero tolerance for malignant misgendering. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 23:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] Shall you protect that page as well? Since lots of log-out socks has appeared just after the block. Already requested at RFPP. [[user:Lemonaka‎|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:jet 0 0.2em 0.2em; font-family:Segoe Print; font-size: 13px">-Lemonaka‎</span>]] 23:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*::{{done}} Didn't notice until you pointed it out. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 23:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*:::I have also RevDel'ed all the offending edits, and indefinitely blocked one of the worst IPs from the page. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
*::::I have also restored the PC whose recent expiration led to this and made it indef this time. Will log at that CTOPS. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


:CanonNi, If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect. Stop vandalizing the pages and good faith contributions of other users. Stop manipulating administrators with false presumptions and complaints. You didn't respect my edits. I justified why I removed the tag. I acted according to the existing rules. [[User:George Voinescu|George Voinescu]] ([[User talk:George Voinescu|talk]]) 07:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
== [[User:78.1.41.95]] reported by [[User:CanonNi]] (Result: Blocked 72 hours) ==
::You have a clear COI, and the issue is far from resolved. I didn't "violate the revert rule", you did, and that's why we're here. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 07:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Hello, administrators! Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. I already checked the talk page. The major contributions come from a neutral male user from the city of Oradea (ForTupan). He has a name similar to the subject of the article (Maria-Ana Tupan), but has no personal connection to it. The article has been improved, the tone is neutral, balanced. The information has credible sources. The problem is different: The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong" have made a common front and repeatedly violate the rules of wikipedia. I ask that my actions and edits be respected. I made constructive changes, removed the article's problems, brought sources and information. After all this, I deleted the tags and justified my action. But it seems that they have a personal problem with the subject of the article and have a personal battle with thim in the discussions. These fights of theirs disrupt wikipedia. They take personal revenge on an article, to hit on the subject of the article. They use their Wikipedia functions to commit abuse. [[User:George Voinescu|George Voinescu]] ([[User talk:George Voinescu|talk]]) 07:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive361#User unhappy with the AfC comments on their draft|Not this again...]] <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 07:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Warning to administrators: the user Melcous makes a common front with The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong". The user Melcous deleted information from the article, saying that they had no sources, then tagged the page. It is bad intention. Now he came back and put another tag, to makes a common front with The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong". <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:George Voinescu|George Voinescu]] ([[User talk:George Voinescu#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/George Voinescu|contribs]]) 07:59, June 2, 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::::Fifth revert here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maria-Ana_Tupan&curid=76401923&diff=1226860574&oldid=1226858610]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::message to administrators. The users "CanoNi", "Theroadislong" and "Melcous" relabel the page one by one, to get my suspension. They want to shut my mouth for good, to vandalize that article without being disturbed. If you want to suspend me, please do so. I wanted you, the administrators, to see how these 3 users vandalize a page and take revenge on the subject of the article [[User:George Voinescu|George Voinescu]] ([[User talk:George Voinescu|talk]]) 08:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|blocked|60 hours}} <b>[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]</b><sup>[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]</sub> 11:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


== [[User: Kashmiri]] reported by [[User:2A04:4A43:4FCF:D943:D89A:4387:EBF1:C398]] (Result: Reporter blocked) ==
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Cult film}}


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Mian Muhammad Bakhsh}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|78.1.41.95}}
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kashmiri}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diff=prev&oldid=1226332009&title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diffonly=1]


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diff=prev&oldid=1226913946&title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diffonly=1]
# {{diff2|1221479705|05:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "You know the funniest and unfortunately saddest thing about this article? What is not said in the entire article about the environment and what is the definition is confusing the readers. In my opinion, it would be better to delete the entire article. When I read everything that is written, I cannot understand what "cult classic" means. Everything is so vague that the reader is confused, because he does not know what it is. Set a guideline so that the reader is not confused."
# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diff=prev&oldid=1226919240&title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diffonly=1]
# {{diff2|1221478102|05:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "And then you are independent HAHA. Tell that to someone else, what an American tells you is the way it is HaHA"
# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diff=prev&oldid=1226923323&title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diffonly=1]
# {{diff2|1221477695|04:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Film politics Hollywood and others would protest, thinking that what I wrote was against them, so maybe there were lawsuits on wikipedia, so I understand you. You are free to return, I understand, I will not edit you again. Greetings"
# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diff=prev&oldid=1226935737&title=Mian_Muhammad_Bakhsh&diffonly=1]
# {{diff2|1221476133|04:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "I agree with you that there should be a source, but there is no source in this sentence either. I just wanted to simplify the sentence so that readers can understand it better."
# {{diff2|1221475698|04:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "What I wrote wrong, look at all those that belong to "cult films" have a low rating on imbd or other and someone who likes the film does not agree with that. I don't think I wrote anything wrong."


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
# {{diff2|1221478549|05:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "ONLY Warning: Potential three-revert rule violation ([[w:en:WP:UV|UV 0.1.5]])"


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''




'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [link]
<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
*{{AN3|b|72 hours}}. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

== [[User:Seelentau]] reported by [[User:Bens dream]] (Result: Both users blocked for 7 days) ==

'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Knocked Loose}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Seelentau}}

'''Previous version reverted to:''' [diff preferred, link permitted]

'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Knocked_Loose&diff=1221563135&oldid=1221563093]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Knocked_Loose&diff=1221563048&oldid=1221562974]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Knocked_Loose&diff=1221562751&oldid=1221562561]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Knocked_Loose&diff=1221562449&oldid=1221562416]

'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASeelentau&diff=1221562502&oldid=1221562348]


'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKnocked_Loose&diff=1221562892&oldid=1221562864]
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [diff]


'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASeelentau&diff=1221563438&oldid=1221562502]
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [diff]


<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
*/64 range of reporter blocked by {{U|Drmies}} for 31 hours.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 18:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
User insists a band is primarily metalcore despite having been shown proof to the contrary. They are unconstructively reverting my edits and vandalising the website in the process. They need to be blocked from editing.


== [[User:2804:D4B:9A7F:9900:39E8:697:C07B:C115]] reported by [[User:Thedarkknightli]] (Result: Blocked 2 weeks) ==
* I have blocked both users for 7 days for high speed edit warring way over 3RR. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 17:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Leon Trotsky}} <br />
== [[User:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] reported by [[User:Warrenmck]] (Result: /64 blocked 2 years) ==
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2804:D4B:9A7F:9900:39E8:697:C07B:C115}}


'''Previous version reverted to:''' {{diff|||1226632953}}
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Altaic languages}}


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016}}
# {{diff|||1226906310}}
# {{diff|||1226926949}}
# {{diff|||1226964100}}
# {{diff|||1226967653}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# {{diff2|1221592230|20:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1221589310|1221589310]] by [[Special:Contributions/Warrenmck|Warrenmck]] ([[User talk:Warrenmck|talk]]) You've reverted at least 4 times now, please stop, this is sourced content and important to the article. You've broken WP:3RR yourself while trying to warn me to not do the same thing."
# {{diff2|1221586603|20:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1221576696|1221576696]] by [[Special:Contributions/Warrenmck|Warrenmck]] ([[User talk:Warrenmck|talk]]) That's not how Wikipedia works. You need to get a consensus before removing sourced content. You keep talking about a discussion but leave no link, nor do you back your claims of a "scholarly consensus". Clearly, there's disagreement between scholars and it's important to show both sides. Robbeets is just as reliable a source as Vovin, if not more."
# {{diff2|1221531931|13:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1220312786|1220312786]] by [[Special:Contributions/Warrenmck|Warrenmck]] ([[User talk:Warrenmck|talk]]) There's no consensus on the Talk page. The only thing eating up a lot of space are the many sources by Vovin, who, while dismissing Altaic, has proposed much more niche theories with far less evidence. He doesn't seem like a trustworthy figure on the subject, yet he's given a lot of space here."


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
# {{diff2|1221589872|20:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Altaic languages */ new section"


'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' {{diff|||1226911708}}
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
# {{diff2|1221588737|20:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Proto-Altaic Forms */ Reply"
# {{diff2|1221589705|20:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Proto-Altaic Forms */ Reply"
# {{diff2|1221591151|20:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Proto-Altaic Forms */ Reply"


'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [diff]
<u>'''Comments:'''</u>


'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' {{diff|||1226971990}}
This is a sticky one, and I think I need to make it clear that I actually am guilty of a fourth revert if we consider the one made by the logged in user (which I suspect a sock issue of due to the identical edits). My fourth edit was made in response to a mid-talk-page-discussion revert, but I should have caught that was technically the fourth and will own up to that.


<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
There's been a big issue on Wikipedia with macrofamily articles and big lists of in-universe content being presented as real. Altaic is a proposed macrofamily which had historical acceptance by has now fallen well outside the academic mainstream, though it's probably not the easiest thing to determine from this article. There was a larger discussion in the past year or so about excising a lot of these lists, but only Altaic has had issues with significant pushback. [[User:Warrenmck|Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ]] 20:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b|2 weeks}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:IOHANNVSVERVS]] reported by [[User:Maradakia]] (Result: Nominator blocked 24 hours) ==
:I'd like to say a few things.
:I assumed it was up to the person removing sourced content to gain consensus on the Talk page, not the other way around.
:This user has made many edits on this page from a clearly biased perspective. The whole point of the article is to explain what the theory is, not to debunk it in every sentence.
:The user is warning me and reporting me for something he is doing himself and was first to do, being edit warring and break the 3 revert rule. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|talk]]) 20:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::Please see [[WP:ONUS]] and [[WP:BRD]]. Cheers. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 20:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::The solution to both is consensus, which he/she did not have. Given that the user is biased against the theory and using its page to try and debunk it, it's safe to assume no reasonable consensus or compromise can be reach. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|talk]]) 21:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::The problem is that the onus to gain consensus is on the person supporting the inclusion of disputed content. That would appear to be you. If no consensus can be reached, then the content does not belong in the article. Simple as that. It can be frustrating, I know. It's the worst possible system with the exception of all the others. Cheers. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 21:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::In that case, I'd like to mention that I noticed the table was removed back in July of 2023 for WP:UNDUE. This is completely unjustified. Like I've been trying to say, the point of the article is not to debunk it. People should be able to read what the theory proposes and then read the criticism. Saying it's been given undue weight is like saying teaching the theory of evolution on the evolution page is undue because it's too convincing.
:::::Also, the person in his/her first revert said to see the Talk page. But there was no consensus on the Talk page and he still has yet to link the discussion he keeps referencing. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|talk]]) 21:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::You're the one who needs to demonstrate consensus, per [[WP:ONUS]]. And if the content is that convincing, then you should have no problem establishing consensus. Wikiprojects, noticeboards, and RFCs can all help with that. Cheers. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 21:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I'll leave it here but again, the purpose is not to convince, it's to explain the theory. What would consensus even look like? Do I need a 2:1 majority or something? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|talk]]) 21:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Persuasion is how Wikipedia articles are built. You can see the page on [[WP:CON|consensus]], which is a fluid concept. While not a vote, numbers certainly do play a role. Basically, when you get broad agreement on the talk page (not unanimity) then you have consensus. Cheers. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 21:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::I just want to be clear that my edits to [[Altaic languages]] have been done in conjunction with the talk page and both the Linguistics Wikiproject and [[WP:FTN]] due to the risk of this looking like an issue with [[WP:RGW]] considering how systematic this issue has been on Wikipedia. I also routinely tag other linguists to look at my edits, as I did in the discussion about the edit war in question to avoid just overly relying on my own perceptions and judgement. [[User:Warrenmck|Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ]] 21:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::WP:RGW is laughable. I've seen your edits and reverts. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016|talk]]) 21:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b|2 years}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 22:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


'''Page:'''https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians <br />
== [[User:GOLDIEM J]] reported by [[User:Cambial Yellowing]] (Result: Both blocked 24 hours) ==
'''User being reported:/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IOHANNVSVERVS


'''Previous version reverted to:''' [diff preferred, link permitted]
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Federal subjects of Russia}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GOLDIEM J}}

'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&oldid=1221433579]


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221571507]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians&diff=prev&oldid=1226988608]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221571784]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians&diff=prev&oldid=1227014927]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221598595]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians&diff=prev&oldid=1227018888]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221604197]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians&diff=prev&oldid=1227023123]
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221604804]






'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GOLDIEM_J&diff=prev&oldid=1221605962]


'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Federal_subjects_of_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=1221588912]
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IOHANNVSVERVS#UW_3RR]


'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GOLDIEM_J&diff=prev&oldid=1221606489]
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians&diff=prev&oldid=1227023541]


'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IOHANNVSVERVS&diff=prev&oldid=1227021944]
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />


<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />
User is edit warring to restore unsourced claims into the infobox. They claim sources are not required as "Russian law says" the Ukrainian territory is a part of Russia and "It's real". <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#4682B4 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#4682B4 -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Cambial Yellowing|<i style="color:#999900">Cambial </i>]]— [[User talk:Cambial Yellowing|<b style="color:#218000">foliar❧</b>]]</span> 22:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


I am new to trying to contribute to Wikipedia discussions and am finding it very confusing. I noticed today an article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians ) that has it's main article page locked, being a contentious topic, but which only presents a narrow and heavily biased and misleading view, without respect for the requirement to maintain a neutral point of view. I am unaware as a new contributor to what process might normally be involved in seeking to redress issues on Wikipedia, especially given that the main page is locked, but noticing a Talk page, it seemed the appropriate location to make a request for someone to edit the article, and I was not the first to comment on that Talk page noticing a lack of neutrality and the presence of a strong bias in the article. I commented on the Talk page attempting to raise my concern with the lack of a NPOV, with specifics. User IOHANNVSVERVS deleted my comment. I tried to put my request to correct the lack of NPOV back on the Talk page and added the comment explaining why saying: "The request on the Talk page associated with this article, seeking to address the required Neutral Point of View criteria, was was deleted by someone. Since the issue of lack of neutrality has not been addressed the request for correction is being un-deleted. undo Tag: Reverted". Afterwards I also saw a comment on the Talk page where someone mentioned an important and missing quotation which was responded to as though it wasn't relevant so I commented with the full quotation and a link to its original source, discussed its relevance to the article and contributed further examples of quotations that might address the bias of the article and lend it more fairness and neutrality. The result was to have my comment on that Talk discussion also deleted by IOHANNVSVERVS who then deleted/reverted my comments on the Talk page twice more in the span of a couple of hours, despite my asking them to stop doing so, as well as sending them the edit warring warning on their user talk page. I also noticed in looking at the user talk page of IOHANNVSVERVS that there are several other instances where issues arose with this user contributing to anti-Israel and anti-Jewish discussions specifically, which begins to look like a pattern of using Wikipedia as a weaponized propaganda platform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/IOHANNVSVERVS And additionally that the history on this user's talk page shows several other warnings about revisions. Before finishing trying to enter this complaint my edit from the Talk page was again reverted. The comment on the reversion suggests that it's not edit warring because as a new user I am only allowed to make edit requests, but that is exactly what my comment was that has now been deleted 4 times. I was requesting edit to address the lack of a neutral point of view. This Wikipedia article is serving as propaganda that shows only one point of view and both the absence of differing views and contempt for disagreement.
:Since when have I claimed that sources are "not required?" Given that the article lists these same regions in the Wikitable further down the article, I feel confident in saying that there's bound to be citations for this provided later on in the article. Furthermore, you made original edits and I reverted them. Then you attempted to restore your reverted edits without bothering with the talk page at all. I, conversely, have been attempting to confer with you to reach a consensus. The only edits of yours I've undone were attempts to restore what I reverted. I have not at all attempted to restore my own original edits that you reverted. So you're the one who keeps changing it to how you think it should be. That's literally the only reason I kept reverting you, not because I wanted the article to be a certain way, but because I thought we needed to reach a consensus first before proceeding any further. [[User:GOLDIEM J|GOLDIEM J]] ([[User talk:GOLDIEM J|talk]]) 22:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::This page is about edit warring. You broke 3rr on the article to restore [[WP:UNSOURCED|unsourced]] material. Citations {{tq|later on in the article}} do not support the unsourced content that you have repeatedly reinserted without sourcing. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#4682B4 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#4682B4 -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Cambial Yellowing|<i style="color:#999900">Cambial </i>]]— [[User talk:Cambial Yellowing|<b style="color:#218000">foliar❧</b>]]</span> 22:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Well, let's see what the admins think of this. I could've very well reported you for the same behaviour you're alleging me of, but reason number one I've never done that before and don't know how, and thing number two I'd prefer to be cooperative and be productive and reach a consensus. So you can thank me later for letting you go and instead choosing to talk. [[User:GOLDIEM J|GOLDIEM J]] ([[User talk:GOLDIEM J|talk]]) 22:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Except that I haven't broken 3rr and I'm not adding original research to the article. But you are. So you would have no basis on which to make such a report. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#4682B4 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#4682B4 -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Cambial Yellowing|<i style="color:#999900">Cambial </i>]]— [[User talk:Cambial Yellowing|<b style="color:#218000">foliar❧</b>]]</span> 23:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::Except you didn't even revert a previous edit initially. You made an original edit that changed the map to an outdated version. So I reverted it. You need to reach a consensus before attempting to restore a reverted edit.
:::::Anyway, can we let the admins deal with this now, please? I don't wish to discuss further while the review is ongoing. [[User:GOLDIEM J|GOLDIEM J]] ([[User talk:GOLDIEM J|talk]]) 23:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
{{od|5}}
When you restore material lacking a source, you need to add reliable sources that support the content - especially when the existing cited scholarship directly contradicts it. Instead, you edit warred to keep original research in the article that contradicts the cited scholarship. The fact you're unable to see why that behaviour is inappropriate is why a sanction against you is necessary. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#4682B4 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#4682B4 -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Cambial Yellowing|<i style="color:#999900">Cambial </i>]]— [[User talk:Cambial Yellowing|<b style="color:#218000">foliar❧</b>]]</span> 23:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


:Did you read the edit summaries by IOHANNVSVERVS, Sean.hoyland, and LilianaUwU, all of whom reverted you? They explained it quite clearly, and there is a note on the talk page further explaining it: this article is under arbitration enforcement as it's a contentious topic. Consequently you need to be [[WP:XC|extended-confirmed]] to make talk page comments (or edit the article). Please see the notice on the talk page for more information. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 08:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
:Fun fact, you edit warred too if I did. Also, I wholly disagree that there is any contradiction in the sources, and your arguements don't make a lot of sense to me. In case I need this in my defense, let me just say that I was not entirely familiar with 3rr beforehand and that I do not believe I was acting in bad faith. Please leave it there while review is ongoing. [[User:GOLDIEM J|GOLDIEM J]] ([[User talk:GOLDIEM J|talk]]) 23:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|bb|24 hours}}. Honestly, Cambial Yellowing should have been blocked for longer, partly because of their block log and partly for having the chutzpah to file this report. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|nb|24 hours}} [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 08:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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    User:Ergzay reported by User:Rahio1234 (Result: Reporter warned)[edit]

    Page: Wikipedia:Sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Ergzay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:


    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    User readded edit. Rahio1234 10:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Rahio1234 Seems to be repeatedly trying to prevent the normal use of the wikipedia sandbox by reverting any changes made to it. Please give them a warning and instructions on proper use of the wikipedia sandbox. They also have extreme english difficulty as they could not explain why they kept reverting any changes made to the sandbox. Ergzay (talk) 10:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Additionally, I gave them a warning on their talk page about edit warring, but they promptly removed it:
    See edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rahio1234&diff=prev&oldid=1226549774 Ergzay (talk) 10:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have cleared out my talk page of this junk that was added by rahio1234, to see it as it was before the removal see: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ergzay&oldid=1226549960 Ergzay (talk) 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ergzay i ask the Bbb23. Rahio1234 10:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What is "the Bbb23"? Ergzay (talk) 10:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This admin. Rahio1234 10:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So you asked this admin how to use the sandbox? Or do you mean you asked the admin on if I was misusing the sandbox? Ergzay (talk) 10:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll also mention the two people who have blocked you previously @331dot and @Drmies. Ergzay (talk) 11:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Rahio1234, the Wikipedia sandbox has instructions on how it may be used and a list of things it cannot be used for (material that is "promotional, copyrighted, offensive, or libelous"). Are you claiming that Ergzay is posting material that falls into that list?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 Ok. Rahio1234 13:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Rahio1234: That is not an answer. This report is an abuse of process, which is probably not intentional but rather demonstrates incompetence both in the bringing of it and how you've handled it after it was brought. You are therefore warned that any continuation of this kind of disruptive conduct will result in a block without any additional notice.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 Can you do something more than a warning? He's been blocked several times before for other things. Ergzay (talk) 13:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 The only thing I posted was a copy paste of a talk page that I was trying to figure out why the build-in "Reply" button didn't work and just gave errors. Rahio1234 immediately came along and started repeatedly reverting my changes in the middle of my testing and then sending me repeated automated warnings via Twinkle when I ignored him and continued editing. Ergzay (talk) 13:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Ergzay: AFAIK, the Wikipedia sandbox may be reset at any time by any editor and is frequently reset automatically by a bot. I suggest you use your own sandbox if you want the material to remain for you to work on and review.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 Thank you. Still user @Ergzay was not edit this wikipedia namespace Rahio1234 13:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Rahio1234: I don't understand what you're trying to say.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 He thinks you're telling me off about how I was using sandbox. Also, for the record, I wasn't trying to make the sandbox stick around. He would literally revert my changes less than a minute after I made them, over and over again. Just look at the edit log. I really think something more than a warning should be given. Ergzay (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bbb23 Also he's still repeatedly resetting other people's test pages every chance he gets on the sandbox. See the additional people complaining on his talk page. I'd prefer we didn't have to create another ANI entry for this subject. Ergzay (talk) 18:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Or-Shalem reported by User:M.Bitton (Result: Page extended-confirmed protected, user partially blocked for 2 weeks)[edit]

    Page: Moroccanoil (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Or-Shalem (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 22:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 22:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
      1. 22:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "I removed the poor sources and added some better ones. I read through all the articles. Nothing here justifies calling the company "Israeli." Even saying it was founded by an Israeli couple is dubious as none of the articles here even mention that Carmen is Israeli. We don't know if she is. The current info is objective and matter-of-fact, as supported by all sources. Do not change until admin comes."
      2. 22:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 21:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Reverted 1 edit by M.Bitton (talk): Because it's subjective"
    3. 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "infobox fixed. neutral info restored. wait til admin gets here"
    4. 20:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1226615469 by Or-Shalem (talk): Can you wait for the admin you contacted to moderate this discussion, please? I don't instants why you are so desperate to force an inference in the opener"
    5. Consecutive edits made from 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
      1. 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Actually the sources linking the company to New York City is not acceptable per Wikipedia standards. The sources don't claim it was founded in Tel Aviv, nor Montreal. And once again, calling it an "Israeli company" is your interpretation."
      2. 19:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ""
    6. Consecutive edits made from 19:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 19:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
      1. 19:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Reverted 1 edit by IvanScrooge98 (talk): Man stop edit warring. Do NOT revert this again until we resolve this in the talk page. You are doing this in bad faith."
      2. 19:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "This is indesputable. What you had before wasn't."
      3. 19:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ""
      4. 19:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ""
    7. 18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Reverted 1 edit by IvanScrooge98 (talk): Edit warrior. Stop. This is not a constructive edit, and just because it is sourced does not make it acceptable. This is bad faith and does not paint the full picture of the company."
    8. 18:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1226519945 by Or-Shalem (talk): Edit warriors"
    9. Consecutive edits made from 04:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) to 04:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
      1. 04:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "I did look at the talk page. It's still a dubious claim, given what the sources are stating. This is not objective. Undid revision 1226475555 by 20WattSphere (talk)"
      2. 04:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "there i hope this is an acceptable compromise for you. i contributed to the talk page for your convenience. I don't personally like the way the sentence I edited is worded "Israeli then-husband" is weird, but it's less objectionable then what was there before."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 21:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Moroccanoil."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. User_talk:Or-Shalem#Moroccanoil
    2. User_talk:Or-Shalem#May_2024
    3. Talk:Moroccanoil

    Comments:

    • Please note that parts of the article that are edit warring on fall under the WP:ARBPIA restrictions (they have been made aware of this). M.Bitton (talk) 22:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Page protected ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Partially blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Mypthegoat reported by User:Left guide (Result: Blocked 48 hours)[edit]

    Page: Luka Dončić (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Mypthegoat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [1]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Original addition
    2. 1st revert
    3. 2nd revert
    4. 3rd revert
    5. 4th revert


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [2]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: This type of edit has been the subject of editorial controversy across multiple related articles in the NBA project, so there is open ongoing discussion at WT:NBA#Conference finals mvp to resolve the content dispute, which I mentioned in both my edit summary and the user's talk page.

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [3]

    Comments:
    User continues to edit-war in the NBA Conference Finals MVP award into the infobox even though they have been reverted by a total of three different editors. Left guide (talk) 23:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Then don’t revert the edit I made what’s so hard to not understand. I already made my explanation. The player has won the Conference Finals MVP and award should be included in Career Awards and Achievements part. I checked the talk page and consensus been saying yes it should be included too. Jaylen Brown has already that award in their bio too. I mean there’s a sentence which says for Luka Doncic in his wiki page that he won the award yesterday but we can’t show it on his career awards part. Make it make sense. Mypthegoat (talk) 23:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:2.26.151.114 reported by User:Austronesier (Result: Blocked from article for one month and alerted to CTOPS)[edit]

    Page: Cushitic-speaking peoples (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 2.26.151.114 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 10:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "Stop removing cited content. This article is about Cushitic ethnic groups and where they inhabit. I see what you’re doing here"
    2. 01:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "If we’re not going to use Somali Peninsula then this should not be removed either"
    3. 01:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "This is valid too"
    4. 00:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "Talk page. Stop removing cited sources. Somalis are the most prominent Cushitic ethnic group out of all the ethnic group in this article. There is a whole nation named after Somalia. The Wikipedia:Notability policy fully supports this too. You kept on removing this content the other day stating it was unsourced and now you don’t find it relevant? The academic sources are there"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 03:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Cushitic-speaking people."
    2. 03:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "/* June 2024 */"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See Talk:Cushitic-speaking_peoples#Somalis,_Somalia.

    Comments:

    The IP editor has been edit-warring about this even though there is an ongoing discussion in Talk:Cushitic-speaking peoples about their proposed additions. They also accuse other editors who disagree with their POV of Anti-Somali sentiment which reinforces the impression that they are not willing to contribute in a collaborative way. Austronesier (talk) 11:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I agree that some level of administrative action is needed: probably a page ban. The back-&-forths have been going on for twelve days now. The IP editor has only engaged others on the Talk page when their edits have been reverted, and has been unwilling to accept that others are engaging in good faith. At this point, I think a resolution through discussion is unlikely. Pathawi (talk) 13:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked – for a period of one month from the article. Since they had not been alerted to it being in a contentious topic area (HORN), I have also done that as well as put a CTOPS notice on the article talk page. For these reasons this will be a regular administrative action that can be appealed through the usual process and reversed by any other admin. Should this user attempt to evade this block, or continue this behavior after it expires, CTOPS should be invoked. Daniel Case (talk) 18:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is so absurd it’s almost funny. The article is about Cushitic ethnic groups and where they reside. By going through the conversations on the talkpage you’ll see it, even the edit summaries. It’s so hypocritical how the dispute went from “unsourced” to “irrelevant” when the sources were brought. @Cookiemonster1618 😂😂😂 2.26.151.114 (talk) 20:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is why you were blocked because your replies indicate that your ignorant of wikipedia's editing policies, despite multiple times me explaining it to you, that your edits are not relevant to this article. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Somalis are not relevant to an article about Cushitic ethnic groups? Visit these pages and learn about Somali DNA Cushitic ancestry & Haplogroup E-M215. Have a look at the map of where Cushitic ethnic groups are concentrated aswell please. Somalis are definitely not irrelevant. I assure you. 2.26.151.114 (talk) 20:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This has nothing to do with the content of your edits, and everything to do with how you made them. When something is under discussion at the talk page, and you know you're right and the other user or users are obtuse and/or dumber than a wet rock, you leave the text in the article alone until the discussion is resolved, even if that text being in the article keeps you from sleeping well.

    BTW, can we assume from your continued presence here that this declaration of yours is no longer operative? Daniel Case (talk) 19:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:George Voinescu reported by User:CanonNi (Result: Blocked for 60 hours)[edit]

    Page: Maria-Ana Tupan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: George Voinescu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 06:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1226852838 by CanonNi (talk)If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
    2. 06:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) "If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
    3. 06:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) "If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."
    4. 06:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1226850514 by Theroadislong (talk)Maintenance templates are not meant to be in articles permanently. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 06:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Removal of maintenance templates (UV 0.1.5)"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 12:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC) "/* Message to CanonNi */ Reply"

    Comments:

    COI issues again. Bringing up this issue to a noticeboard for the third time, after COIN and ANI both failed. SPA removing the {{autobiography}} tag, possible sock of ForTupan (talk · contribs). '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 06:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    CanonNi, If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect. Stop vandalizing the pages and good faith contributions of other users. Stop manipulating administrators with false presumptions and complaints. You didn't respect my edits. I justified why I removed the tag. I acted according to the existing rules. George Voinescu (talk) 07:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You have a clear COI, and the issue is far from resolved. I didn't "violate the revert rule", you did, and that's why we're here. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 07:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, administrators! Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. I already checked the talk page. The major contributions come from a neutral male user from the city of Oradea (ForTupan). He has a name similar to the subject of the article (Maria-Ana Tupan), but has no personal connection to it. The article has been improved, the tone is neutral, balanced. The information has credible sources. The problem is different: The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong" have made a common front and repeatedly violate the rules of wikipedia. I ask that my actions and edits be respected. I made constructive changes, removed the article's problems, brought sources and information. After all this, I deleted the tags and justified my action. But it seems that they have a personal problem with the subject of the article and have a personal battle with thim in the discussions. These fights of theirs disrupt wikipedia. They take personal revenge on an article, to hit on the subject of the article. They use their Wikipedia functions to commit abuse. George Voinescu (talk) 07:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not this again... '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 07:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Warning to administrators: the user Melcous makes a common front with The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong". The user Melcous deleted information from the article, saying that they had no sources, then tagged the page. It is bad intention. Now he came back and put another tag, to makes a common front with The users "CanoNi" and "Theroadislong". — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Voinescu (talkcontribs) 07:59, June 2, 2024 (UTC)
    Fifth revert here [4]. Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    message to administrators. The users "CanoNi", "Theroadislong" and "Melcous" relabel the page one by one, to get my suspension. They want to shut my mouth for good, to vandalize that article without being disturbed. If you want to suspend me, please do so. I wanted you, the administrators, to see how these 3 users vandalize a page and take revenge on the subject of the article George Voinescu (talk) 08:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User: Kashmiri reported by User:2A04:4A43:4FCF:D943:D89A:4387:EBF1:C398 (Result: Reporter blocked)[edit]

    Page: Mian Muhammad Bakhsh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Kashmiri (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [5]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [6]
    2. [7]
    3. [8]
    4. [9]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

    Comments:

    Page: Leon Trotsky (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 2804:D4B:9A7F:9900:39E8:697:C07B:C115 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [10]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [11]
    2. [12]
    3. [13]
    4. [14]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [15]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [16]

    Comments:

    User:IOHANNVSVERVS reported by User:Maradakia (Result: Nominator blocked 24 hours)[edit]

    Page:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians
    User being reported:/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IOHANNVSVERVS

    Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [17]
    2. [18]
    3. [19]
    4. [20]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [21]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [22]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [23]

    Comments:

    I am new to trying to contribute to Wikipedia discussions and am finding it very confusing. I noticed today an article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_was_no_such_thing_as_Palestinians ) that has it's main article page locked, being a contentious topic, but which only presents a narrow and heavily biased and misleading view, without respect for the requirement to maintain a neutral point of view. I am unaware as a new contributor to what process might normally be involved in seeking to redress issues on Wikipedia, especially given that the main page is locked, but noticing a Talk page, it seemed the appropriate location to make a request for someone to edit the article, and I was not the first to comment on that Talk page noticing a lack of neutrality and the presence of a strong bias in the article. I commented on the Talk page attempting to raise my concern with the lack of a NPOV, with specifics. User IOHANNVSVERVS deleted my comment. I tried to put my request to correct the lack of NPOV back on the Talk page and added the comment explaining why saying: "The request on the Talk page associated with this article, seeking to address the required Neutral Point of View criteria, was was deleted by someone. Since the issue of lack of neutrality has not been addressed the request for correction is being un-deleted. undo Tag: Reverted". Afterwards I also saw a comment on the Talk page where someone mentioned an important and missing quotation which was responded to as though it wasn't relevant so I commented with the full quotation and a link to its original source, discussed its relevance to the article and contributed further examples of quotations that might address the bias of the article and lend it more fairness and neutrality. The result was to have my comment on that Talk discussion also deleted by IOHANNVSVERVS who then deleted/reverted my comments on the Talk page twice more in the span of a couple of hours, despite my asking them to stop doing so, as well as sending them the edit warring warning on their user talk page. I also noticed in looking at the user talk page of IOHANNVSVERVS that there are several other instances where issues arose with this user contributing to anti-Israel and anti-Jewish discussions specifically, which begins to look like a pattern of using Wikipedia as a weaponized propaganda platform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/IOHANNVSVERVS And additionally that the history on this user's talk page shows several other warnings about revisions. Before finishing trying to enter this complaint my edit from the Talk page was again reverted. The comment on the reversion suggests that it's not edit warring because as a new user I am only allowed to make edit requests, but that is exactly what my comment was that has now been deleted 4 times. I was requesting edit to address the lack of a neutral point of view. This Wikipedia article is serving as propaganda that shows only one point of view and both the absence of differing views and contempt for disagreement.

    Did you read the edit summaries by IOHANNVSVERVS, Sean.hoyland, and LilianaUwU, all of whom reverted you? They explained it quite clearly, and there is a note on the talk page further explaining it: this article is under arbitration enforcement as it's a contentious topic. Consequently you need to be extended-confirmed to make talk page comments (or edit the article). Please see the notice on the talk page for more information. — Czello (music) 08:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nominating editor blocked – for a period of 24 hours ~ ToBeFree (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]