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		<title>142.177.103.52: why one cannot be permitted to evolve here, and why members of the Wikipedia one must be excluded here</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;why one cannot be permitted to evolve here, and why members of the Wikipedia one must be excluded here&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wikipedia Liars Club&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are those members of the [[m:Wikipedia Social Club]] (despite various efforts to assert that [[m:Wikipedia is not a social club]] it has been made abundantly clear that it is, in fact, ruled by one) who disregard every effort to reach the truth in a matter in order to control Wikipedia&amp;#039;s decisions.  &lt;br /&gt;
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While many [[m:liars]] operate freely at Wikipedia, usually pushing agendas to promote [[w:Zionism]] and [[w:string theory]] and [[w:neoclassical economics]], and who successfully exploit Wales&amp;#039; belief in these things, they often counter each other leaving only an obvious [[systemic bias]] which is &amp;quot;pro-American&amp;quot;.  It is notable that [[m:Anti-American_Wikipedians|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;anti&amp;#039;&amp;#039;-American Wikipedians]] declare themselves, while the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;pro&amp;#039;&amp;#039;-American Wikipedians don&amp;#039;t have to.  One can understand many conflicts and who has &amp;quot;won&amp;quot; them based on a simple analysis of who is pro-Israel and pro-USA without being too obvious about it.  However, a good deal of controversy is tolerated on these subjects.&lt;br /&gt;
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Where the controversy is not tolerated is on [[identity dispute]]s.  The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Liars Club&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; co-operate with each other, claim a monopoly on &amp;quot;who wrote what&amp;quot;, and are the core operatives in the [[echo chamber]] function of Wikipedia, and are primarily responsible for it being a [[libel pit]] where an allegation with no grounding whatsoever can be repeated and even become part of actual Wikipedia articles.  Their activities on [[large public wiki]]s should be tracked, and any in which they gain influence should and must be [[shunned]].&lt;br /&gt;
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As this causes various real world projects/persons to be disadvantaged, real world measures such as lawsuits and reprisals are already being contemplated by a few parties.  There are constant [[threats]], for instance, to sue Wikipedia out of existence on this issue - probably no week goes by without some such allegation on its mailing list, and eventually one will turn out to be backed by lawyers.  Basically, inviting the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Liars Club&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in will destroy projects.&lt;br /&gt;
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In &amp;quot;What is an Author&amp;quot;, 1969, [[w:Michel Foucault]] wrote that &amp;quot;the author does not precede the works;  he is a certain functional principle by which, in our culture, one limits, excludes, chooses and impedes the [[free circulation of fiction]].&amp;quot;  It is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;precisely&amp;#039;&amp;#039; that function which &amp;quot;[[limits, excludes, chooses and impedes]]&amp;quot; which the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Liars Club&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; controls by their monopoly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Permitting a parallel clique to exist at Consumerium would destroy the project, as it depends absolutely on unpleasant or unpopular truths being exposed in the name of [[transparency]] and tracking of [[comprehensive outcome]].  Also this project is quite vulnerable to [[libel pit]] charges or other consequences of a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Liars Club&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; making arbitrary assignment of &amp;quot;who wrote what&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;why&amp;quot;...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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