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Jukeboksi at 20:23, 29 May 2005

2005-05-29T20:23:25Z

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	[[Category:Wiki governance]]		[[Category:Wiki governance]] [[Category:Trollism]]
	'''Wiki management''' applies when there is potential for [[users in conflict]] in a [[large public wiki]].		'''Wiki management''' applies when there is potential for [[users in conflict]] in a [[large public wiki]].

Jukeboksi: Category:Wiki governance Category:Trollism

2005-05-29T20:22:31Z

Category:Wiki governance Category:Trollism

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			[[Category:Wiki governance]]
	'''Wiki management''' applies when there is potential for [[users in conflict]] in a [[large public wiki]].		'''Wiki management''' applies when there is potential for [[users in conflict]] in a [[large public wiki]].

Jukeboksi: spun death threat -> spun threat

2004-08-15T11:01:11Z

spun death threat -> spun threat

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	*Degrading or placing on standby the status of those engaged in [[ad hominem delete]] or other transparency-reducing, content-degrading tactics, which can easily result in the database falling into a state where it is legally liable.		*Degrading or placing on standby the status of those engaged in [[ad hominem delete]] or other transparency-reducing, content-degrading tactics, which can easily result in the database falling into a state where it is legally liable.

	*[[Desysopping]] those who participate in creating or echoing [[spun ~~death~~ threat]]s, or granting these credibility or official status beyond what was actually said; this sort of libel has extremely serious consequences in an age of no-fly lists. If a comment is an actual threat of specific violence, it must be investigated. If not, then claims that it is, must be put to rest, before the conflict over the comment escalates to the point of violence itself.		*[[Desysopping]] those who participate in creating or echoing [[spun threat]]s, or granting these credibility or official status beyond what was actually said; this sort of libel has extremely serious consequences in an age of no-fly lists. If a comment is an actual threat of specific violence, it must be investigated. If not, then claims that it is, must be put to rest, before the conflict over the comment escalates to the point of violence itself.

	*[[protected page]] mechanics		*[[protected page]] mechanics

Jukeboksi: typo

2004-08-15T11:00:00Z

typo

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	Despite this good advice, much [[wiki ideology]] has evolved under blanket terms like "[[virtual community]]", "[[soft security]]", "[[hard security]]", or "[[wiki way]]" that is often claimed to be applicable to all wiki technology. This is a highly questionable claim. There is not even one widely accepted [[wiki ontology]] in which to discuss these terms:		Despite this good advice, much [[wiki ideology]] has evolved under blanket terms like "[[virtual community]]", "[[soft security]]", "[[hard security]]", or "[[wiki way]]" that is often claimed to be applicable to all wiki technology. This is a highly questionable claim. There is not even one widely accepted [[wiki ontology]] in which to discuss these terms:

	It has taken considerable effort even just to discover what "[[trolls]] really are." It appears that they are simply users who anger others, who could be anyone, ~~adn~~ who insist on some [[due process]] and [[bottom-up authoritative integrity]], and in doing so tend to annoy the [[sysop power structure]], which will eventually [[block IP]] rather than continuing to deal with their dissent. One can in general globally subsitute the word "heretic" for the word "troll" and clarify the theological power structure considerably. It is no accident that the term [[GodKing]] is used to describe the user of last resort.		It has taken considerable effort even just to discover what "[[trolls]] really are." It appears that they are simply users who anger others, who could be anyone, and who insist on some [[due process]] and [[bottom-up authoritative integrity]], and in doing so tend to annoy the [[sysop power structure]], which will eventually [[block IP]] rather than continuing to deal with their dissent. One can in general globally subsitute the word "heretic" for the word "troll" and clarify the theological power structure considerably. It is no accident that the term [[GodKing]] is used to describe the user of last resort.

	Many including [[Consumerium:Itself]] seek to defy such authoritarian models.		Many including [[Consumerium:Itself]] seek to defy such authoritarian models.

Support a unified GFDL Corpus at 21:02, 14 August 2004

2004-08-14T21:02:22Z

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-'''Wiki management''' of the [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]], and the [[sysop power structure]] of each, is a major concern of [[Consumerium Governance]].  It must be supervised by the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] under the guidance of a genuinely [[independent board]].
+'''Wiki management''' applies when there is potential for [[users in conflict]] in a [[large public wiki]].
 A poorly managed wiki, e.g. those run by [[Wikimedia]], can generate legal and goodwill problems that spread far beyond their own services.  For instance, a [[libel pit]] amplified by an [[echo chamber]] can generate an unlimited number of [[cease and desist letter]]s from individuals who believe, probably correctly, they have been misrepresented or slandered by a [[bad copy problem]] or [[broken telephone]] picking up the output of the echo chamber.
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 People will actually care about the material we manage here.  Jobs, companies, perhaps whole industries or national economies, will be at stake.  It's foolish to imagine that [[Consumerium]] will not have all the same problems, and worse, than have been seen in every other [[large public wiki]], and some they haven't yet seen.  If we are not prepared for the problems they ''have'' seen, it's not possible to be prepared for problems they haven't...

142.177.103.144 at 03:26, 16 February 2004

2004-02-16T03:26:35Z

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	=== democratic user roles ===		=== democratic user roles ===

	We may require formal [[Wiki Editor]] and [[Wiki Lawyer]]/advocate/mediator roles to guide [[Wiki Sysop]] behaviour. ''Left on their own they tend to be [[little tin god]]s - each hoping to grow up to be [[GodKing]]. This shouldn't be encouraged. Nor should a clique of [[usurper]]s doing [[sysop vandalism]], which seems to be the next step in the "evolution" away from GodKings to some [[priestly hierarchy]]. None of these poor management methods will be able to generate or respond to real world pressures, and only work in a fantasy world.''		We may require formal [[Wiki Editor]] and [[Wiki Lawyer]]/advocate/mediator roles to guide [[Wiki Sysop]] behaviour. ''Left on their own they tend to be [[little tin god]]s - each hoping to grow up to be [[GodKing]]. This shouldn't be encouraged. Nor should a clique of [[usurper]]s doing [[sysop vandalism]], which seems to be the next step in the "evolution" away from GodKings to some [[priestly hierarchy]]. None of these poor management methods will be able to generate or respond to real world pressures, and only work in a fantasy world, like video games, which seem to be where many of these people learn all they actually know about management.''

	[[Consumerium buying signal]] will not stand up under scrutiny in a democratic society, or even [[cease and desist letter]]s directed to its board, unless it has democratic [[sysop power structure]]. Good sysops are disposable, period. Good editors are not. And good lawyers can keep your project going when it otherwise would be flushed down the toilet (see reference to [[Wikimedia]] above, which will almost certainly be destroyed by failure to democratize in time).		[[Consumerium buying signal]] will not stand up under scrutiny in a democratic society, or even [[cease and desist letter]]s directed to its board, unless it has democratic [[sysop power structure]]. Good sysops are disposable, period. Good editors are not. And good lawyers can keep your project going when it otherwise would be flushed down the toilet (see reference to [[Wikimedia]] above, which will almost certainly be destroyed by failure to democratize in time).

142.177.103.144 at 03:25, 16 February 2004

2004-02-16T03:25:26Z

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	==== instructional ====		==== instructional ====

			*Degrading or placing on standby the status of those engaged in [[ad hominem delete]] or other transparency-reducing, content-degrading tactics, which can easily result in the database falling into a state where it is legally liable.

	*[[Desysopping]] those who participate in creating or echoing [[spun death threat]]s, or granting these credibility or official status beyond what was actually said; this sort of libel has extremely serious consequences in an age of no-fly lists. If a comment is an actual threat of specific violence, it must be investigated. If not, then claims that it is, must be put to rest, before the conflict over the comment escalates to the point of violence itself.		*[[Desysopping]] those who participate in creating or echoing [[spun death threat]]s, or granting these credibility or official status beyond what was actually said; this sort of libel has extremely serious consequences in an age of no-fly lists. If a comment is an actual threat of specific violence, it must be investigated. If not, then claims that it is, must be put to rest, before the conflict over the comment escalates to the point of violence itself.

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