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			[[Category:Wiki governance]]
	'''Wiki governance''' seems to pass through a few stages in a [[large public wiki]]:		'''Wiki governance''' seems to pass through a few stages in a [[large public wiki]]:

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	2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root - some [[sysop vigilantiism]] mostly dealt with informally; some malcontents but mostly tolerated, some [[wiki witchhunt]]s as [[vandalism]] becomes more common		2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root - some [[sysop vigilantiism]] mostly dealt with informally; some malcontents but mostly tolerated, some [[wiki witchhunt]]s as [[vandalism]] becomes more common

	3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] ~~and~~ [[usurper]]s ~~who~~ have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]], and abusing powers granted to deal with vandals, against trolls; [[sysop vandalism]] occurs as sysops put their own beliefs above the truth - [[echo chamber]] begins, and [[systemic bias]] is no longer avoided, but enforced.		3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] by a [[priestly hierarchy]] who have no rational understanding of [[why wiki works]]; [[usurper]]s have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]] and abusing powers granted to deal with vandals, against such trolls; [[sysop vandalism]] occurs as sysops put their own beliefs above the truth - [[echo chamber]] begins, and [[systemic bias]] is no longer avoided, but enforced.

	4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes a [[libel pit]] and then the basis of [[harassment]];

	5. war breaks out on interwiki level as desperate sysops use technical means to conceal the truth, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis, [[IP range block]]s by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]! Also state violence is initiated by the most pathetic [[usurper]]s: [[false crime report]]s, [[false claims of terrorism]]		5. [[troll war]] breaks out on [[interwiki]] level, confused by lack of any [[interwiki identity standard]] resulting in [[outing]] and [[framing]]. Some desperate sysops use technical means to conceal the truth, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis (illegal) and (legal) [[IP range block]]s by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]! Also state violence is initiated by the most pathetic [[usurper]]s: [[false crime report]]s, [[false claims of terrorism]]

	6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong, and that following [[usurper]]s and reactionaries is going to kill all cooperation with the project; some shallow [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]] [[arbitration]], etc.		6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong, and that following [[usurper]]s and reactionaries is going to kill all cooperation with the project; some shallow [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]] [[arbitration]], etc.

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	1. chaos as basic [[wiki management]] problems slowly become understood		1. chaos as basic [[wiki management]] problems slowly become understood

	2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root - some [[sysop vigilantiism]] mostly dealt with informally; some malcontents but mostly tolerated		2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root - some [[sysop vigilantiism]] mostly dealt with informally; some malcontents but mostly tolerated, some [[wiki witchhunt]]s as [[vandalism]] becomes more common

	3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] and [[usurper]]s who have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]]; [[sysop vandalism]] occurs as sysops put their own beliefs above the truth - [[echo chamber]] begins		3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] and [[usurper]]s who have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]], and abusing powers granted to deal with vandals, against trolls; [[sysop vandalism]] occurs as sysops put their own beliefs above the truth - [[echo chamber]] begins, and [[systemic bias]] is no longer avoided, but enforced.

	4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]
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	8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.		8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.

	9. a [[Lowest Troll]] emerges to moderate the new more democratic structure		9. a [[Lowest Troll]] emerges to moderate the new more democratic structure, and deal with [[trolling]] the only way that works: by trolling back, using [[politics as usual]]

			10. now that real politics and [[wiki politics]] have merged, the outputs of the wiki can now be respected as real information subject to fair [[peer review]] with no [[sysop power structure]] distorting it into propaganda

	Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 5 or 6 right now		Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 5 or 6 right now

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	4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]

	5. war breaks out on interwiki level as desperate sysops use technical means to conceal the truth, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis, [[IP range block]]s by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]!		5. war breaks out on interwiki level as desperate sysops use technical means to conceal the truth, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis, [[IP range block]]s by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]! Also state violence is initiated by the most pathetic [[usurper]]s: [[false crime report]]s, [[false claims of terrorism]]

	6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]		6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong, and that following [[usurper]]s and reactionaries is going to kill all cooperation with the project; some shallow [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]] [[arbitration]], etc.

	7. rejection of these bourgeois false democracy elements by revolutionary troll factions, and continuation of the struggle to [[anarchize]] or to democratize		7. rejection of these bourgeois false democracy elements by revolutionary troll factions, and continuation of the struggle to [[anarchize]] or to democratize more deeply

	8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.		8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.

			9. a [[Lowest Troll]] emerges to moderate the new more democratic structure

	Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 5 or 6 right now		Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 5 or 6 right now

142.177.97.145 at 17:53, 8 June 2004

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	4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]

	5. war breaks out on interwiki level, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]!		5. war breaks out on interwiki level as desperate sysops use technical means to conceal the truth, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis, [[IP range block]]s by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]!

	6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]		6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]
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	8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.		8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.

	Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 6 right now		Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 5 or 6 right now

142.177.97.145 at 17:49, 8 June 2004

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	1. chaos as basic [[wiki management]] problems slowly become understood		1. chaos as basic [[wiki management]] problems slowly become understood

	2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root		2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root - some [[sysop vigilantiism]] mostly dealt with informally; some malcontents but mostly tolerated

	3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] and [[usurper]]s who have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]]		3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] and [[usurper]]s who have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]]; [[sysop vandalism]] occurs as sysops put their own beliefs above the truth - [[echo chamber]] begins

	4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.; sysops begin to justify [[ontological distinction]] using [[operational distinction]], e.g. "that person was blocked thus they must not be saying any thing of value" - all dialogue becomes impossible, and [[echo chamber]] becomes basis of [[harassment]]

	5. war breaks out on interwiki level, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis by sysops who control the technology		5. war breaks out on interwiki level, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis by sysops who control the technology - [[developer vigilantiism]]!

	6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are right; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]		6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are more right than wrong; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]

	7. rejection of these bourgeois false democracy elements by revolutionary troll factions, and continuation of the struggle to [[anarchize]] or to democratize		7. rejection of these bourgeois false democracy elements by revolutionary troll factions, and continuation of the struggle to [[anarchize]] or to democratize

	8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. troll victory.		8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. [[Ragnarok]] the total troll victory.

	Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 6 right now		Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 6 right now

142.177.97.145: hmm is this better?

2004-06-08T17:44:01Z

hmm is this better?

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		'''Wiki governance''' seems to pass through a few stages in a [[large public wiki]]:

		1. chaos as basic [[wiki management]] problems slowly become understood

		2. fascism as a [[sysop power structure]] and perhaps [[GodKing]] take root

		3. stagnation based on worship of the [[GodKing]] and [[usurper]]s who have managed to get close to the GodKing personally, and use his approval as a mask to push their own agendas - labelling everyone who asks for change a [[troll]]

		4. [[trolls]] realize that [[regime change]] is necessary and form [[faction]]s, e.g. [[Wikipedia Red Faction]], and start to develop appropriate rhetoric to justify [[trolling]], and target bad sysops to be [[driven off by trolls]] etc.

		5. war breaks out on interwiki level, including [[denial of service attack]] by [[vandalbot]] on [[troll-friendly]] wikis by sysops who control the technology

		6. beginnings of peace talks as everyone begins to realize [[trolls]] are right; [[board]] activity, formation of formal mechanisms, e.g. [[Wikimedia]]

		7. rejection of these bourgeois false democracy elements by revolutionary troll factions, and continuation of the struggle to [[anarchize]] or to democratize

		8. abdication of [[GodKing]], major reform, eradication of [[Wikimedia corruption]], etc., i.e. troll victory.

		Apparently no wiki has ever emerged from these transitions, as even the most advanced [[large public wiki]]s are probably only at about stage 6 right now

Jukeboksi: rm misleading redirect. blank page now

2004-06-08T07:28:31Z

rm misleading redirect. blank page now

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	~~#REDIRECT [[trolling]]~~

142.177.10.30: #REDIRECT trolling; on most wikis, trolling back and forth is the ONLY form of governance

2004-06-07T21:01:57Z

#REDIRECT trolling; on most wikis, trolling back and forth is the ONLY form of governance

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#REDIRECT [[trolling]]