User talk:Brion - Revision history

142.177.92.162 at 00:57, 9 March 2004

2004-03-09T00:57:12Z

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	Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]		Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]

	:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway. See [[Wikimedia]] for a list of policies detrimental to the further development of the [[GFDL text corpus]].		:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway. See [[Wikimedia]] for a list of policies detrimental to the further development of the [[GFDL text corpus]]. ''Care to challenge these, Brion?''

	:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?		:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". ''Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]? Gee why not?''

	:And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]] so only the Wikipedia ones are constant)? [[Trolls]] suspect so. We have lots of reasons to believe misfeatures are chosen deliberately to create dependence on Wikipedia and its incompetent "cabal".		:And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]] so only the Wikipedia ones are constant)? [[Trolls]] suspect so. ''Given our experiences, we have lots of reasons to believe misfeatures are chosen deliberately to create dependence on Wikipedia and its incompetent "cabal".''

	:If we see the distributed [[GFDL text corpus]] properly supported, we might change our minds. But for now it appears that [[Mediawiki]] is simply a sort of trap that [[GetWiki]] is trying to crawl out of. And we want out of that trap. We are necessarily [[multiple point of view]] at [[Consumerium]], and the ideology of [[neutral point of view]] simply doesn't and cannot apply, even if it made sense, which it doesn't. It is really all about their [[GodKing]] and what makes him personally comfortable or not, and the same is true for the features they implement, which seem to be going towards [[permission-based model]]s we don't need or want for [[Consumerium Services]].		:If we see the distributed [[GFDL text corpus]] properly supported, we might change our minds. But for now it appears that [[Mediawiki]] is simply a sort of trap that [[GetWiki]] is trying to crawl out of. And we want out of that trap. We are necessarily [[multiple point of view]] at [[Consumerium]], and the ideology of [[neutral point of view]] simply doesn't and cannot apply, even if it made sense, which it doesn't. It is really all about their [[GodKing]] and what makes him personally comfortable or not, and the same is true for the features they implement, which seem to be going towards [[permission-based model]]s ''which we don't need or want for [[Consumerium Services]].''

			:If these questions and issues aren't answered to, and the appropriate fixes not on the slate for MediaWiki's next release and actually working within two or three months, it would make much more sense to shift to [[GetWiki]] instead. Its developer(s) have no conflicts of interest, unlike bomis.com.

142.177.92.162 at 00:55, 9 March 2004

2004-03-09T00:55:12Z

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	Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]		Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]

	:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway.		:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway. See [[Wikimedia]] for a list of policies detrimental to the further development of the [[GFDL text corpus]].

	:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?		:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?

142.177.92.162 at 00:38, 9 March 2004

2004-03-09T00:38:16Z

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	:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?		:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?

	:And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]] so only the Wikipedia ones are constant? [[Trolls]] suspect so.		:And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]] so only the Wikipedia ones are constant)? [[Trolls]] suspect so. We have lots of reasons to believe misfeatures are chosen deliberately to create dependence on Wikipedia and its incompetent "cabal".

	:If we see the distributed [[GFDL text corpus]] properly supported, we might change our minds. But for now it appears that [[Mediawiki]] is simply a sort of trap that [[GetWiki]] is trying to crawl out of. And we want out of that trap. We are necessarily [[multiple point of view]] at [[Consumerium]], and the ideology of [[neutral point of view]] simply doesn't and cannot apply, even if it ~~makes~~ sense, which it doesn't. It is really all about their [[GodKing]] and what makes him personally comfortable or not, and the same is true for the features they implement, which seem to be going towards [[permission-based model]]s we don't need or want for [[Consumerium Services]].		:If we see the distributed [[GFDL text corpus]] properly supported, we might change our minds. But for now it appears that [[Mediawiki]] is simply a sort of trap that [[GetWiki]] is trying to crawl out of. And we want out of that trap. We are necessarily [[multiple point of view]] at [[Consumerium]], and the ideology of [[neutral point of view]] simply doesn't and cannot apply, even if it made sense, which it doesn't. It is really all about their [[GodKing]] and what makes him personally comfortable or not, and the same is true for the features they implement, which seem to be going towards [[permission-based model]]s we don't need or want for [[Consumerium Services]].

142.177.92.162 at 00:36, 9 March 2004

2004-03-09T00:36:33Z

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	Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]		Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]

	:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway. Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded ~~so everything must point back~~ to Wikipedia. This is wrong. Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]? And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]]?).		:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway.

			:Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded by failing to put language codes first, meaning [[wiki linking]] to "English (whatever)" will always go to [[Full English Wikipedia]]. This is wrong in every way - the language codes are [[ISO standard]]s and all they should mean is "in English, please". Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]?

			:And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]] so only the Wikipedia ones are constant? [[Trolls]] suspect so.

			:If we see the distributed [[GFDL text corpus]] properly supported, we might change our minds. But for now it appears that [[Mediawiki]] is simply a sort of trap that [[GetWiki]] is trying to crawl out of. And we want out of that trap. We are necessarily [[multiple point of view]] at [[Consumerium]], and the ideology of [[neutral point of view]] simply doesn't and cannot apply, even if it makes sense, which it doesn't. It is really all about their [[GodKing]] and what makes him personally comfortable or not, and the same is true for the features they implement, which seem to be going towards [[permission-based model]]s we don't need or want for [[Consumerium Services]].

142.177.92.162: bad faith misfeatures of Mediawiki creating dependence on Wikipedia - is there a fix, or, is this a conspiracy? See standard wiki URI, interwiki link standard for issues

2004-03-09T00:32:16Z

bad faith misfeatures of Mediawiki creating dependence on Wikipedia - is there a fix, or, is this a conspiracy? See standard wiki URI, interwiki link standard for issues

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	Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]		Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo\|Juxo]]

			:Moving to [[GetWiki]] is an upgrade. Testing more damaged [[Mediawiki]] isn't, in the view of [[trolls]] anyway. Among other things the [[interwiki link standard]] is retarded so everything must point back to Wikipedia. This is wrong. Is there a fix for this within [[MediaWiki]]? And why isn't the proper [[standard wiki URI]] supported by default on a new MediaWiki install? Is this another attempt to make it easy to refer to Wikipedia articles and hard to refer to others (by ensuring their URIs will be impossible to remember for the average user, and constantly shifting with each release of [[Mediawiki]]?).

Jukeboksi: Thanks

2003-10-06T07:28:48Z

Thanks

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Thanks Brion. This upgrade wouldn't have happened without your help. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]]