User talk:Angela - Revision history

142.177.114.15: blocking is for simple vandals... whether or not they are sysop-vandals

2004-02-10T21:18:57Z

blocking is for simple vandals... whether or not they are sysop-vandals

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	::Interesting. "Not technically possible". You are willing to whine and beg others to CENSOR people, but not to UNCENSOR them. You hide behind what the technology can do, or what you personally are empowered with it to do, when the result would be what you don't like. Another lack of principle.		::Interesting. "Not technically possible". You are willing to whine and beg others to CENSOR people, but not to UNCENSOR them. You hide behind what the technology can do, or what you personally are empowered with it to do, when the result would be what you don't like. Another lack of principle.
	::It also reveals how afraid the [[GodKing]] and his cabal are - they have to actually use blocks that ordinary sysops can't undo, knowing how strong the appetite for [[m:regime change]] is, and how many friends we have now BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT.		::It also reveals how afraid the [[GodKing]] and his cabal are - they have to actually use blocks that ordinary sysops can't undo, knowing how strong the appetite for [[m:regime change]] is, and how many friends we have now BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT.

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			Moving some talk relevant to one user's behaviour to a "flames" page is no big deal, but censoring talk files deliberately that outline such habits as relying on [http://disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=echo_chamber Echo chamber]] lies to excuse excluding people you don't like... that is quite relevant to the mission of this wiki. Keep censoring these things, without answering to any of the detailed points, and sadly there may be a need to ask for you to be blocked.

			Blocking is for simple vandals. And that's what you appear now to be. - 142

142.177.8.70: proves two points: Angela will ask for censorship but when asked to undo it, she'll plead "not technically possible", and, Starling usurps sysop powers as a developer

2004-01-14T13:28:53Z

proves two points: Angela will ask for censorship but when asked to undo it, she'll plead "not technically possible", and, Starling usurps sysop powers as a developer

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	You asked [[w:User:Cyan]] to do it.		You asked [[w:User:Cyan]] to do it.
	:No I didn't.		:No I didn't.
			::That's not how a reasonable person would read your dialogue with him.

	In any case, you are now a sysop there, and you haven't UNblocked that range.		In any case, you are now a sysop there, and you haven't UNblocked that range.
	:Not technically possible even if I wanted to.		:Not technically possible even if I wanted to.
			::Interesting. "Not technically possible". You are willing to whine and beg others to CENSOR people, but not to UNCENSOR them. You hide behind what the technology can do, or what you personally are empowered with it to do, when the result would be what you don't like. Another lack of principle.
	:~~Juxo~~, ~~please delete this page again~~. ''~~Angela''~~		::It also reveals how afraid the [[GodKing]] and his cabal are - they have to actually use blocks that ordinary sysops can't undo, knowing how strong the appetite for [[m:regime change]] is, and how many friends we have now BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT.

Angela: Juxo, please delete this page again

2004-01-13T04:51:46Z

Juxo, please delete this page again

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	This claim not to have blocked the 142 ips on simple is a lie.		This claim not to have blocked the 142 ips on simple is a lie.

	You asked [[w:User:Cyan]] to do it. He said he would, or someone would, when the power to do so existed. That seemed to satisfy you. You had ambitions to delete a vast number of articles with proposed policy and design material, and a good deal more that were directed towards the POV of a translator or simple English user struggling on his or her own to understand the English culture, not just language. For instance you deleted the [http:~~//simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Readings Simple English Readings] out of process although they were certainly neutral. You can~~'t claim something is "in process" if the new software's been in place barely a month... there's not enough people there to put ANYTHING in process. But anyway, your motives are clear: you could not take control of that project and mold it to your own objective (seemingly, a children's encyclopedia) without destroying that material. So you begged for it to be done by others so you would not be blamed. This is fairly typical female behaviour - get others to play cop for you.		You asked [[w:User:Cyan]] to do it.
			:No I didn't.

	In any case, you are now a sysop there, and you haven't UNblocked that range. ~~So you're responsible, or rather, irresponsible. If anyone was blocked from editing legitimate material,~~ if ~~anything, you have a responsibility~~ to ~~work with it, find other champions for it, etc., to prove you were neutral on the material itself, and that it was not the material that led to the censorship~~.		In any case, you are now a sysop there, and you haven't UNblocked that range.
			:Not technically possible even if I wanted to.

	~~But in fact~~, ~~your behavior proves the opposite, and has nothing to do with your words~~. ~~You are directly and provably responsible for the block, we are quite sure. And my opinion, and word, is worth more than yours. That~~'s all there is to it. Our track record is quite consistent. And so is yours. You blocked by whining, and then taking the power, and then deleting the material. That is if anything more of a power grab than a temporary block.		:Juxo, please delete this page again. ''Angela''

142.177.99.185: a passive-aggressive liar usually gets others to do the dirty work for them - but in any case, you are clearly part of a small cabal who made this decision and you don't un-implement it, so...

2004-01-07T08:46:07Z

a passive-aggressive liar usually gets others to do the dirty work for them - but in any case, you are clearly part of a small cabal who made this decision and you don't un-implement it, so...

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This claim not to have blocked the 142 ips on simple is a lie.

You asked [[w:User:Cyan]] to do it. He said he would, or someone would, when the power to do so existed. That seemed to satisfy you. You had ambitions to delete a vast number of articles with proposed policy and design material, and a good deal more that were directed towards the POV of a translator or simple English user struggling on his or her own to understand the English culture, not just language. For instance you deleted the [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Readings Simple English Readings] out of process although they were certainly neutral. You can't claim something is "in process" if the new software's been in place barely a month... there's not enough people there to put ANYTHING in process. But anyway, your motives are clear: you could not take control of that project and mold it to your own objective (seemingly, a children's encyclopedia) without destroying that material. So you begged for it to be done by others so you would not be blamed. This is fairly typical female behaviour - get others to play cop for you.

In any case, you are now a sysop there, and you haven't UNblocked that range. So you're responsible, or rather, irresponsible. If anyone was blocked from editing legitimate material, if anything, you have a responsibility to work with it, find other champions for it, etc., to prove you were neutral on the material itself, and that it was not the material that led to the censorship.

But in fact, your behavior proves the opposite, and has nothing to do with your words. You are directly and provably responsible for the block, we are quite sure. And my opinion, and word, is worth more than yours. That's all there is to it. Our track record is quite consistent. And so is yours. You blocked by whining, and then taking the power, and then deleting the material. That is if anything more of a power grab than a temporary block.