User talk:142.177.77.57 - Revision history

142.177.112.97: who is the troll? ;-) this says what I said it said!

2003-04-15T00:31:09Z

who is the troll? ;-) this says what I said it said!

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 [http://act.greenpeace.org/1014917000/1014941204/1024270541/1024347962/index_html#1024421552 Here Greenpeace fanatics are not distinguishing products harmful to Great Apes and presenting that information instantly via UPC codes contrary to what 142.177.X.X originally stated, but it's an very interesting rambling conversation otherwise].
 UPC is a little USA-centric. GTIN is much more universal (it includes both UPC and EAN spaces, which covers a big part of the worlds buying power)
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 :Thanks.  There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue.  But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes *exactly* how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively.  Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important.  So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:

Jukeboksi: +GTIN

2003-04-14T23:03:40Z

+GTIN

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	[http://act.greenpeace.org/1014917000/1014941204/1024270541/1024347962/index_html#1024421552 Here Greenpeace fanatics are not distinguishing products harmful to Great Apes and presenting that information instantly via UPC codes contrary to what 142.177.X.X originally stated, but it's an very interesting rambling conversation otherwise].		[http://act.greenpeace.org/1014917000/1014941204/1024270541/1024347962/index_html#1024421552 Here Greenpeace fanatics are not distinguishing products harmful to Great Apes and presenting that information instantly via UPC codes contrary to what 142.177.X.X originally stated, but it's an very interesting rambling conversation otherwise].

			UPC is a little USA-centric. GTIN is much more universal (it includes both UPC and EAN spaces, which covers a big part of the worlds buying power)
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	:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:		:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:

Jukeboksi: Pasting the link here so we can argue on whether it contains useful information or not

2003-04-14T23:01:09Z

Pasting the link here so we can argue on whether it contains useful information or not

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	Helo 142.177.77.57, perhaps you might like to get an account here. Thanks for your great input to [[wikipedia]], I just diffed through your work and it's very good.		Helo 142.177.X.X, perhaps you might like to get an account here. Thanks for your great input to [[wikipedia]], I just diffed through your work and it's very good.

			[http://act.greenpeace.org/1014917000/1014941204/1024270541/1024347962/index_html#1024421552 Here Greenpeace fanatics are not distinguishing products harmful to Great Apes and presenting that information instantly via UPC codes contrary to what 142.177.X.X originally stated, but it's an very interesting rambling conversation otherwise].
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	:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:		:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:

142.177.112.97: why be locusts when we can be apes?

2003-04-14T22:25:04Z

why be locusts when we can be apes?

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	::Well I read the discussion again and really doesn't belong in the [[features]] page. Context and content is not what the description you wrote described. Get a user page and put it there. It's got some interesting "between the lines" points though		::Well I read the discussion again and really doesn't belong in the [[features]] page. Context and content is not what the description you wrote described. Get a user page and put it there. It's got some interesting "between the lines" points though

			:::Did it not explain exactly how such a consumer agent would work and how someone would act on this information? Those are features. Or better, "benefits". It seemed even more dead on than the abstract wikipedia articles which did not have the 'punch'.

	:Because apes are just like us, emotionally, but not rivals to us, if we won't save them, we sure won't save each other, and we better get on with being extinct. So a project that doesn't do this first, probably isn't worth doing.		:Because apes are just like us, emotionally, but not rivals to us, if we won't save them, we sure won't save each other, and we better get on with being extinct. So a project that doesn't do this first, probably isn't worth doing.

			:And, I didn't change my mind about this. Projects to redirect purchasing dollars either start with these high-empathy just-like-us [[w:hominid]]s, or they start somewhere less efficient. You must focus this project better I think, even to get the XML right. Otherwise there are no priorities to guide development, recruiting, etc.. And, if humans won't do what is efficient, they are doing only their own agenda, and that is just like being a locust. Or a troll. ;-)

Jukeboksi: read the discussion. your description and the target don't match.

2003-04-14T19:23:35Z

read the discussion. your description and the target don't match.

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	:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:		:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:

			::Well I read the discussion again and really doesn't belong in the [[features]] page. Context and content is not what the description you wrote described. Get a user page and put it there. It's got some interesting "between the lines" points though

	:Because apes are just like us, emotionally, but not rivals to us, if we won't save them, we sure won't save each other, and we better get on with being extinct. So a project that doesn't do this first, probably isn't worth doing.		:Because apes are just like us, emotionally, but not rivals to us, if we won't save them, we sure won't save each other, and we better get on with being extinct. So a project that doesn't do this first, probably isn't worth doing.

142.177.112.97: why ape project matters

2003-04-14T18:34:07Z

why ape project matters

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	Helo 142.177.77.57, perhaps you might like to get an account here. Thanks for your great input to [[wikipedia]], I just diffed through your work and it's very good.		Helo 142.177.77.57, perhaps you might like to get an account here. Thanks for your great input to [[wikipedia]], I just diffed through your work and it's very good.

			:Thanks. There is actually very good background on wikipedia about this issue. But also there is good background on Greenpeace, including a link you removed from 'features' that describes exactly how to use a system just like this one (consumerium), very effectively. Also cross-participation with NGO boards is important. So you could put it as a reference, but I don't agree that link is unnecessary, and I also think that coordination with [[w:bushmeat]] campaigns to prevent [[w:ape genocide]] is probably the single greatest place this project could have impact:

			:Because apes are just like us, emotionally, but not rivals to us, if we won't save them, we sure won't save each other, and we better get on with being extinct. So a project that doesn't do this first, probably isn't worth doing.

Jukeboksi at 13:13, 14 April 2003

2003-04-14T13:13:26Z

New page

Helo 142.177.77.57, perhaps you might like to get an account here. Thanks for your great input to [[wikipedia]], I just diffed through your work and it's very good.