User:Jukeboksi/Blog/May2005 - Revision history

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2017-07-06T15:23:18Z

Jukeboksi moved page User:Juboxi/Blog/May2005 to User:Jukeboksi/Blog/May2005: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "Juboxi" to "Jukeboksi"

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Jukeboksi: Juboxi moved page User:Juxo/Blog/May2005 to User:Juboxi/Blog/May2005: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "Juxo" to "Juboxi"

2013-06-14T13:03:58Z

Juboxi moved page User:Juxo/Blog/May2005 to User:Juboxi/Blog/May2005: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "Juxo" to "Juboxi"

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Jukeboksi: MediaWiki has yet another feature to customise the software for all mediawiki users.m:Writing a new special page

2005-05-31T15:33:31Z

MediaWiki has yet another feature to customise the software for all mediawiki users.m:Writing a new special page

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			[[MediaWiki]] has yet another feature to customise the software for all mediawiki users.[[m:Writing a new special page]]

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Jukeboksi: away from theory - towards implementation

2005-05-29T21:21:07Z

away from theory - towards implementation

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 I've been thinking about the [[Language vs. Area]] problemacy. I've been plotting a plan in my head that certain [[companies]] and [[product]]s they offer should be arranged by location ie.
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 The problem of whose responsibility it is to make these kinds of decisions doesn't evaporate away because someone has to '''decide''' who are the '''decision makers''' in each case.
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Jukeboksi: minor fmt

2005-05-29T20:44:08Z

minor fmt

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	...but then something almost magical happened... I remembered something that I've been taught in school: '''There are [[Good]]s (tanglible) and [[Service]]s (intanglible)''', both of these are [[product]]s (This is how it is in the course books). The distinction between a service and a good is sometimes difficult to make. This is covered well in the [[w:Service]] article.		...but then something almost magical happened... I remembered something that I've been taught in school: '''There are [[Good]]s (tanglible) and [[Service]]s (intanglible)''', both of these are [[product]]s (This is how it is in the course books). The distinction between a service and a good is sometimes difficult to make. This is covered well in the [[w:Service]] article.

	-[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] goes to the [[store]] to buy bread. Is the store selling me a bread or is it selling me a services (sourcing, logistics, storage and other activities that enable me to consume the service leaving the store knowoing that I won't go hungry for a while now)?		An example (far fetched):
			:-[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] goes to the [[store]] to buy bread. Is the store selling me a bread or is it selling me a services (sourcing, logistics, storage and other activities that enable me to consume the service leaving the store knowoing that I won't go hungry for a while now)?

	Some people argue strongly that all transactions should be viewed as services. See [[w:Service economy]] and/or [[Service economy]] on this view point.		Some people argue strongly that all transactions should be viewed as services. See [[w:Service economy]] and/or [[Service economy]] on this view point.

Jukeboksi: Article validation coming to MediaWiki 1.5 - we will likely use this to decide what get's published

2005-05-29T19:35:22Z

Article validation coming to MediaWiki 1.5 - we will likely use this to decide what get's published

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	I'm currently thinking that companies selling services should be arranged into a tree-like structure so that the [[companies]] provoding [[service]]s would be close to each other in the article hierarchy. And, yes, I know how bad this solution is for performance (I can actually read and write [[w:SQL\|SQL]] (!)... after all [[MediaWiki]] is developed for [[Wikipedia]] where the common wiki-way is to avoid sub-articles so it's not at all optimised to traverse up and down subarticle-trees.		I'm currently thinking that companies selling services should be arranged into a tree-like structure so that the [[companies]] provoding [[service]]s would be close to each other in the article hierarchy. And, yes, I know how bad this solution is for performance (I can actually read and write [[w:SQL\|SQL]] (!)... after all [[MediaWiki]] is developed for [[Wikipedia]] where the common wiki-way is to avoid sub-articles so it's not at all optimised to traverse up and down subarticle-trees.

			===Article validation coming to 1.5===
			[[m:Article validation\|Article validation is a hot topic on meta today]] as [[m:User:Magnus Manske]] has once again implemented this feature as described in [[m:Article validation feature]] this time it seems to be integrated into [[MediaWiki]] in 1.5 tree and '''you can try it out [http://test.leuksman.com/index.php/Main_Page here].'''

			This new feature is likely the tool we are going to use to decide what gets published as facts and what doesn't.

			Those of you who have been with us for a while may remember when we decided that [[Simple model for expressing opinions\|articles about the real world get published when the "default signer" signs a version]] of an article thus the dreaded [[sysop]] doesn't get to make (or have the misery of having to decide) the decision of what goes and what doesn't.

			The problem of whose responsibility it is to make these kinds of decisions doesn't evaporate away because someone has to '''decide''' who are the '''decision makers''' in each case.

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Jukeboksi: distinction between product and service in wiki and in practice. Workable start on Local vs. Global

2005-05-29T12:39:02Z

distinction between product and service in wiki and in practice. Workable start on Local vs. Global

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			I've been thinking about the [[Language vs. Area]] problemacy. I've been plotting a plan in my head that certain [[companies]] and [[product]]s they offer should be arranged by location ie.
			<pre>
			[[FI/Tampere/SomeTex-MexRestaurant]]
			[[US/California/Santa Cruz/SomeBikeRepairShop]]
			[[CA/Ontario/Toronto/China Town/SpicccyChineseRestaurant]]
			</pre>
			Thinking how this is not a workable arrangement for transnational [[corporation]]s to pinpoint them to their HQ...

			...but then something almost magical happened... I remembered something that I've been taught in school: '''There are [[Good]]s (tanglible) and [[Service]]s (intanglible)''', both of these are [[product]]s (This is how it is in the course books). The distinction between a service and a good is sometimes difficult to make. This is covered well in the [[w:Service]] article.

			-[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] goes to the [[store]] to buy bread. Is the store selling me a bread or is it selling me a services (sourcing, logistics, storage and other activities that enable me to consume the service leaving the store knowoing that I won't go hungry for a while now)?

			Some people argue strongly that all transactions should be viewed as services. See [[w:Service economy]] and/or [[Service economy]] on this view point.

			I'm currently thinking that companies selling services should be arranged into a tree-like structure so that the [[companies]] provoding [[service]]s would be close to each other in the article hierarchy. And, yes, I know how bad this solution is for performance (I can actually read and write [[w:SQL\|SQL]] (!)... after all [[MediaWiki]] is developed for [[Wikipedia]] where the common wiki-way is to avoid sub-articles so it's not at all optimised to traverse up and down subarticle-trees.


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Jukeboksi: intensive thinking going on

2005-05-26T15:52:12Z

intensive thinking going on

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			I've got my thinking cap on and I think I'll get a plan for moving to implementation phase soon. Please be patient. I remember when I started this project I was thinking of 10-15 years to implementation... of this only little over 3 years have lapsed. Also emergence of interesting technologies such as [[NFC]] and cell phone manufacturers coming out with phones with [[w:WLAN\|WLAN]] and [[Bluetooth]] has leaped forward.

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Jukeboksi: Prodeterminism vs. Emergent order in Research Wiki

2005-05-22T20:43:28Z

Prodeterminism vs. Emergent order in Research Wiki

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	I asked around at #mediawiki on http://freenode.net about [[wiki]] -> [[html]] conversion since there are hundreds of sites serving [[Wikipedia]] content as static html I thought that either all those sites invented the wheel for themselves or there is a freely available tool, and there is one developed within [[mediawiki]] development [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/maintenance/dumpHTML.inc?rev=1.3&view=markup here is the .inc file] and [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/maintenance/dumpHTML.php?rev=1.1&view=markup here is the .php file] (from the 1.5 alpha tree)		I asked around at #mediawiki on http://freenode.net about [[wiki]] -> [[html]] conversion since there are hundreds of sites serving [[Wikipedia]] content as static html I thought that either all those sites invented the wheel for themselves or there is a freely available tool, and there is one developed within [[mediawiki]] development [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/maintenance/dumpHTML.inc?rev=1.3&view=markup here is the .inc file] and [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/maintenance/dumpHTML.php?rev=1.1&view=markup here is the .php file] (from the 1.5 alpha tree)
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	'''The [[Language vs. Area]] question on what basis is used to arrange - ie. store and retirieve information - most efficiently organise the information''' still remains a major blockade stopping us from going on into implemenatation phase		'''The [[Language vs. Area]] question on what basis is used to arrange - ie. store and retirieve information - most efficiently organise the information''' still remains a major blockade stopping us from going on into implemenatation phase.
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			There are (imho) two approaches to making [[Consumerium services]] and [[features]] to work:

			#'''Pro-Determinism''': machine-friendly: heavy use of [[Special:Categories\|categories]], heavy use of [[namespaces]], Using strictly the same terminology as a business operative would eg. [[Company]], [[Brand]] and [[Product]] namespaces
			#'''Emergent''': Laid back, more wikilike. Let's just see if we can make minimum set of rules of what goes where and how will strange attractors or other "order from chaos" emerge.

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Jukeboksi: moved the notes about wikicompany to Wikicompany proper

2005-05-22T20:11:21Z

moved the notes about wikicompany to Wikicompany proper

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	'''The [[Language vs. Area]] question on what basis is used to arrange - ie. store and retirieve information - most efficiently organise the information''' still remains a major blockade stopping us from going on into implemenatation phase		'''The [[Language vs. Area]] question on what basis is used to arrange - ie. store and retirieve information - most efficiently organise the information''' still remains a major blockade stopping us from going on into implemenatation phase

	[[Wikicompany]] says it's "a free-content business directory", which I guess that they are concentrating on [[w:B2B\|B2B]] (Business to Business) information, which is good for [[Consumerium]] since we are concentrating on C2B and [[w:B2C\|B2C]] information.

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