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Jukeboksi at 20:28, 24 June 2003

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27.3.2003

[http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/~sst/is/WebOntologyLanguage/hayes.htm Here] is an interesting article providing some serious critique of using structured document to represent human knowledge. I've been very tempted to mix [[XML]] with some heavy [[Wiki]] for [[Consumerium]] before, but this makes it even more attractive.

:[[w:foundation ontology|Foundation ontology]] questions? Very sticky. Start with ecology, harder to go wrong.

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24.3.2003

Here is a link http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/standards.html to an interesting article. Dimitri Dimitriatis seems to have a clear perception of the need to identify the software components involved in web services. If the server and client components are GPL'd then there is no guarantee that the components function as specified in the "official" specification. Or is there? Wondering....

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21.3.2003

Ok. I'm going to Helsinki for the weekend, so please don't vandalise Consumerium while I'm gone. I'm taking a database dump with me, so I'll upload my edits on Sunday if I'm not too lazy/drunk on the weekend to do some work.

21.3.2003

Today I'm mostly creating stubs for describing different [[features]] and their implementation in detail. Most [[feature]] pages are also used for laying out basic design principles. I'm starting with the simplest features and then working on to the more complex ones, so I can link the complex ones to the simpler ones which they build on.
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20.3.2003

Today I'm thinking about [[campaign]]s, they can be calls for [[boycott]] or [[endorsment]]. They can be targeted at individual [[product]]s [[product group]]s, [[brand]]s, [[company|companies]], [[corporation]]s, [[supply chain]]s or [[area]]s. Areas can be [[province]]s or [[country|countries]]. It just seems that the [[country|nation state]] is a little unprecise for an [[campaign]], but I don't have a better nominator for campaigning. Boycotting [[capital]] would be a really nice [[features|feature]], but it's [[utopia]] at the moment. There are numerous reasons why tracking capital is so difficult that it's [[not feasible]].

I'll get started on including markup for locations in wikipedia soon. It' just a really demanding task even just to write a good article and wikitech-l post about it so the idea woun't get torpedoed immediatelly.
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19.3.2003

Really tired today, so not doing much

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18.3.2003

I've been thinking about why on earth doesn't [[w:HTML]] or [[w:XHTML]] contain tags or meta-tags for connecting a document to a point (or an area) on earth.

:[http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/ecoregion_DTD ecoregion DTD] is good place to start.

This would be supergroovy if search engines supported searching for words with results ordered by physical location (very heavy search indeed, I've studied a course on GIS, and even done some work in that area, and I can tell you that multiple 1-dimensional search keys in [[relational algebra]] (that's like what the RDBMS translates SQL into before it is executed) is a picnic compared to even simplified 2-dimensional indexes, let alone if we want accurate real world 3d indexing (Buildings etc. have multiple floors you know.))

Now I have just one thought. '''Forget the web, let's do it for Wikipedia and the rest of the Web can catch up someday, maybe.'''

Throw in a standardised way of marking times up and voila: We have spatio-temporal data, that can be grouped and searched in numerous ways, if someone just coded the search engine and if we had some spare processing power for this tedious task.
:[http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/spacetime_DTD spacetime DTD] is doing this
:[http://p2pmap.org p2pmap] also is thinking of adopting it
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:Thanks, I did. Mostly things already discussed but useful here for those who read this blog.

:Is there going to be a way to govern this thing other than talking to you on a blog? I like [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/twelve_leverage_points 'leverage points' as used on meta.wikipedia.org to watch/steer wikipedia project] - very low-overhead, based on ecology model. Very applicable here as you try to change resourcing, production, distribution, consumption, and waste systems. Also see Jim Moore on 'assembly rules' for the 'second superpower'.

::Well it seems we need something like [[w:Wikipedia:Village pump]]. Must think of a name for it.

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Jukeboksi at 20:28, 24 June 2003