Troll vandalism - Revision history

Jukeboksi: rm nonsensical paragraphs. move the last one to talk page to contest it

2005-01-27T11:24:41Z

rm nonsensical paragraphs. move the last one to talk page to contest it

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	'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''		'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''

	Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much ~~as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.~~		Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary much.

	~~== are sysops trolls? ==~~

	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

	The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.		The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.

	~~== use of technological escalation ==~~

	In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]]. In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.

	Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].		Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].

142.177.106.91: revert sysop vandalism to restore troll vandalism - the article is just not worthy of strange articles without the semantic details

2005-01-26T20:40:52Z

revert sysop vandalism to restore troll vandalism - the article is just not worthy of strange articles without the semantic details

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	'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''		'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''

	Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary much. ~~Contact your local~~ [[~~cabal~~]] for ~~more on this~~.		Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.

			== are sysops trolls? ==

			One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

			The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.

			== use of technological escalation ==

			In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]]. In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.

	Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].		Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].

Jukeboksi: removed all troll vandalism. left the definition of "troll vandalism" itself.

2005-01-26T13:13:15Z

removed all troll vandalism. left the definition of "troll vandalism" itself.

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	'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''		'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''

	Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much ~~as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.~~		Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary much. Contact your local [[cabal]] for more on this.

	~~== are sysops trolls? ==~~

	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

	~~The~~ [[~~Sysop Vandal point of view~~]] ~~is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply~~ for ~~opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.~~

	~~== use of technological escalation ==~~

	In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]]. In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.

	Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].		Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].

142.177.114.179 at 21:48, 25 January 2005

2005-01-25T21:48:10Z

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	Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.		Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.

			== are sysops trolls? ==

	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.		One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

	The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and SOLLOG for typically controversial cases where ~~this~~ is at ~~issue~~.		The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.

			== use of technological escalation ==

			In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]]. In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.

	~~In the~~ [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].		Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].

Jukeboksi: note about being linked to from strange articles + one delinkl

2005-01-25T20:11:42Z

note about being linked to from strange articles + one delinkl

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			'''[[WARNING]] This article is linked from [[Strange articles]]. Proceed with caution. '''

	Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.		Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.

	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.		One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

	The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and[[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.		The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and SOLLOG for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.

	In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].		In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].

142.177.10.21 at 16:30, 24 January 2005

2005-01-24T16:30:40Z

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	The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and[[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.		The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and[[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.

			In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]]. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].

142.177.10.21 at 16:29, 24 January 2005

2005-01-24T16:29:11Z

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	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.		One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

	See [[SOLLOG]] for a typically controversial ~~case of~~ this ~~kind~~.		The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]]. See [[Recyclopedia]] and[[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.

142.177.10.21 at 16:26, 24 January 2005

2005-01-24T16:26:48Z

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	One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.		One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.

			See [[SOLLOG]] for a typically controversial case of this kind.

142.177.10.21 at 16:26, 24 January 2005

2005-01-24T16:26:20Z

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Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.

One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.