Troll-sysop struggle - Revision history

142.177.114.60: clarifying as requested

2004-08-31T22:08:35Z

clarifying as requested

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	Cases of simple [[vandalism]] "justify" the creation of a police force of sysops. These are trusted to simply identify and [[block IP]] of vandals.		Cases of simple [[vandalism]] "justify" the creation of a police force of sysops. These are trusted to simply identify and [[block IP]] of vandals.

	However, the [[sysop]]s then exercise their assumed [[God's Eye View]] to create or define their political opponents of various [[faction]]s as "[[trolls]]". By attaching [[stigma]] to that term they hope to suppress the dissident politics. Some [[troll organization]]s or just wise individuals make [[troll-friendly offer]]s, e.g. to restore [[troll text]] as a form of resistance to [[sysop vandalism]]. When challenged, ~~the justifications that~~ '''troll-friendlies''' ~~use to~~ remain [[troll-friendly]] ~~are brought~~ to ~~light, and attached~~ by such means as [[ad hominem delete]] and even [[libel]].		However, the [[sysop]]s then exercise their assumed [[God's Eye View]] to create or define their political opponents of various [[faction]]s as "[[trolls]]". By attaching [[stigma]] to that term they hope to suppress the dissident politics. Some [[troll organization]]s or just wise individuals make [[troll-friendly offer]]s, e.g. to restore [[troll text]] as a form of resistance to [[sysop vandalism]]. When challenged, '''troll-friendlies''' justify this resistance, and if they remain [[troll-friendly]], the [[sysop power structure]] will actively attempt to censor the troll-supportive material they cite by such unfair means as [[ad hominem delete]] and even by [[libel]].

	This necessarily creates power struggles as [[technological escalation\|sysops use their powers of blocking, deletion and spying]] to obscure or delete all of the theoretical [[gnawlij]] that would help others realize that there is nothing special about the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] and no reason to let a [[GodKing]] or [[priestly hierarchy]] determine the discourse on any wiki.		This necessarily creates even more power struggles as [[technological escalation\|sysops use their powers of blocking, deletion and spying]] to obscure or delete all of the theoretical [[gnawlij]] that would help others realize that there is nothing special about the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] and no reason to let a [[GodKing]] or [[priestly hierarchy]] determine the discourse on any wiki.

	The '''text liberation''', e.g. of [[GFDL corpus]] via [[GetWiki]] etc., then proceeds when everyone realizes [[infrastructure owners trust]] is not needed, and that to [[anarchize]] the whole distribution of texts, e.g. [[GFDL corpus access provider]]s, would simply solve all the sysop vandalism/terror problems.		The '''text liberation''', e.g. of [[GFDL corpus]] via [[GetWiki]] etc., then proceeds when everyone realizes [[infrastructure owners trust]] is not needed, and that to [[anarchize]] the whole distribution of texts, e.g. [[GFDL corpus access provider]]s, would simply solve all the sysop vandalism/terror problems.

142.177.103.156 at 20:09, 30 August 2004

2004-08-30T20:09:04Z

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	Cases of simple [[vandalism]] "justify" the creation of a police force of sysops. These are trusted to simply identify and [[block IP]] of vandals.		Cases of simple [[vandalism]] "justify" the creation of a police force of sysops. These are trusted to simply identify and [[block IP]] of vandals.

	However, the [[sysop]]s then exercise their assumed [[God's Eye View]] to create or define their political opponents of various [[faction]]s as "[[trolls]]". By attaching [[stigma]] to that term they hope to suppress the dissident politics. Some [[troll ~~organizations~~]] or ~~resisting~~ individuals make [[troll-friendly offer]]s, e.g. to restore [[troll text]] as a form of resistance to [[sysop vandalism]]. When challenged, the justifications that '''troll-friendlies''' use to remain [[troll-friendly]] are brought to light, and attached by such means as [[ad hominem delete]] and even [[libel]].		However, the [[sysop]]s then exercise their assumed [[God's Eye View]] to create or define their political opponents of various [[faction]]s as "[[trolls]]". By attaching [[stigma]] to that term they hope to suppress the dissident politics. Some [[troll organization]]s or just wise individuals make [[troll-friendly offer]]s, e.g. to restore [[troll text]] as a form of resistance to [[sysop vandalism]]. When challenged, the justifications that '''troll-friendlies''' use to remain [[troll-friendly]] are brought to light, and attached by such means as [[ad hominem delete]] and even [[libel]].

	This necessarily creates power struggles as [[technological escalation\|sysops use their powers of blocking, deletion and spying]] to obscure or delete all of the theoretical [[gnawlij]] that would help others realize that there is nothing special about the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] and no reason to let a [[GodKing]] or [[priestly hierarchy]] determine the discourse on any wiki.		This necessarily creates power struggles as [[technological escalation\|sysops use their powers of blocking, deletion and spying]] to obscure or delete all of the theoretical [[gnawlij]] that would help others realize that there is nothing special about the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] and no reason to let a [[GodKing]] or [[priestly hierarchy]] determine the discourse on any wiki.

			The '''text liberation''', e.g. of [[GFDL corpus]] via [[GetWiki]] etc., then proceeds when everyone realizes [[infrastructure owners trust]] is not needed, and that to [[anarchize]] the whole distribution of texts, e.g. [[GFDL corpus access provider]]s, would simply solve all the sysop vandalism/terror problems.

142.177.103.156: simple definition

2004-08-30T20:06:46Z

simple definition

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Simply put, '''troll-sysop struggle''' is the conflict between [[New Troll point of view]] and [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] that generates most [[wiki management]] "problems". It could be seen as a form of [[w:class struggle|class struggle]] with sysops as bourgeois, trolls as the [[w:lumpen proletariat]] and the more organized [[faction]]s as a [[w:vanguard party]].

The struggle typically evolves as follows:

Cases of simple [[vandalism]] "justify" the creation of a police force of sysops. These are trusted to simply identify and [[block IP]] of vandals.

However, the [[sysop]]s then exercise their assumed [[God's Eye View]] to create or define their political opponents of various [[faction]]s as "[[trolls]]". By attaching [[stigma]] to that term they hope to suppress the dissident politics. Some [[troll organizations]] or resisting individuals make [[troll-friendly offer]]s, e.g. to restore [[troll text]] as a form of resistance to [[sysop vandalism]]. When challenged, the justifications that '''troll-friendlies''' use to remain [[troll-friendly]] are brought to light, and attached by such means as [[ad hominem delete]] and even [[libel]].

This necessarily creates power struggles as [[technological escalation|sysops use their powers of blocking, deletion and spying]] to obscure or delete all of the theoretical [[gnawlij]] that would help others realize that there is nothing special about the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] and no reason to let a [[GodKing]] or [[priestly hierarchy]] determine the discourse on any wiki.