Talk:Subject-object problem - Revision history

64.214.191.210: elegato

2010-07-02T13:35:10Z

elegato

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	Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".		Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".

			== elegato ==

			elegato man
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142.169.232.2 at 17:59, 2 September 2004

2004-09-02T17:59:56Z

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	''Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'''		''Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'''

	For example mention of [[Jennifer Love Hewitt]] is probably an invocation of a ~~sexually~~ attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.		For example mention of [[Jennifer Love Hewitt]] is probably an invocation of a sexual attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.

	=== extreme examples ===		=== extreme examples ===

Jukeboksi at 07:47, 2 September 2004

2004-09-02T07:47:35Z

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	Some think that rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime that is just randomly done 99% by men on women in societies where women are subject to [[objectification]] via [[advertising]] etc. This is not what [[w:feminism\|feminist critics]] tend to believe.

	Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".		Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".

142.177.93.9: typo

2004-09-01T18:47:55Z

typo

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	Some think that rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime that is just randomly done 99% by men on women in societies where women are subject to [[objectification]] via [[advertising]] etc. This is not what [[w:feminism\|feminist critics]] tend to believe.		Some think that rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime that is just randomly done 99% by men on women in societies where women are subject to [[objectification]] via [[advertising]] etc. This is not what [[w:feminism\|feminist critics]] tend to believe.

	Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL ~~corpuos~~ access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".		Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".

142.177.93.9: responding to misconceptions of rape and right to vanish

2004-09-01T18:47:08Z

responding to misconceptions of rape and right to vanish

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	One could as a less extreme example include the definition of [[trolls]] into existence by a [[priestly hierarchy]] of [[sysop]]s loyal to their [[GodKing]].		One could as a less extreme example include the definition of [[trolls]] into existence by a [[priestly hierarchy]] of [[sysop]]s loyal to their [[GodKing]].

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			Some think that rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime that is just randomly done 99% by men on women in societies where women are subject to [[objectification]] via [[advertising]] etc. This is not what [[w:feminism\|feminist critics]] tend to believe.

			Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpuos access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]]. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".

Jukeboksi: rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime and if you feel that there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others you can simply go somewhere else...

2004-09-01T13:41:48Z

rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime and if you feel that there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others you can simply go somewhere else...

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	=== extreme examples ===		=== extreme examples ===

	[[God's Eye View]] ~~and [[rape]] are two extreme examples~~ of subject object ~~issues~~ that create or justify extreme [[unequal power relationship]]s, those being, between [[priestly hierarchy]] and ordinary worshippers~~, and between rapist and those raped~~. These relationships are simply imposed by force on an unwilling object who is forced to submit to them, regardless of consequences. Some believe [[colonialism]] is also a product of exactly the same phenomena, and that [[technological escalation]] is closely related to these same issues.		[[God's Eye View]] is an example of subject object issue that create or justify extreme [[unequal power relationship]]s, those being, between [[priestly hierarchy]] and ordinary worshippers. These relationships are simply imposed by force on an unwilling object who is forced to submit to them, regardless of consequences. Some believe [[colonialism]] is also a product of exactly the same phenomena, and that [[technological escalation]] is closely related to these same issues.

	One could as a less extreme example include the definition of [[trolls]] into existence by a [[priestly hierarchy]] of [[sysop]]s loyal to their [[GodKing]].		One could as a less extreme example include the definition of [[trolls]] into existence by a [[priestly hierarchy]] of [[sysop]]s loyal to their [[GodKing]].

142.177.114.60: worth preserving examples, many of which are very directly relevant to recent events and labels used on people

2004-08-31T22:20:22Z

worth preserving examples, many of which are very directly relevant to recent events and labels used on people

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''Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'''

For example mention of [[Jennifer Love Hewitt]] is probably an invocation of a sexually attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.

=== extreme examples ===

[[God's Eye View]] and [[rape]] are two extreme examples of subject object issues that create or justify extreme [[unequal power relationship]]s, those being, between [[priestly hierarchy]] and ordinary worshippers, and between rapist and those raped. These relationships are simply imposed by force on an unwilling object who is forced to submit to them, regardless of consequences. Some believe [[colonialism]] is also a product of exactly the same phenomena, and that [[technological escalation]] is closely related to these same issues.

One could as a less extreme example include the definition of [[trolls]] into existence by a [[priestly hierarchy]] of [[sysop]]s loyal to their [[GodKing]].