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		<title>142.177.109.56: failure to comprehend:  should such weak apprentices really be editing heroic trolling?  Probably not</title>
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		<updated>2004-09-08T00:23:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;failure to comprehend:  should such weak apprentices really be editing &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Heroic_trolling&quot; title=&quot;Heroic trolling&quot;&gt;heroic trolling&lt;/a&gt;?  Probably not&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 00:23, 8 September 2004&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It stands nicely as an example of why [[ending Wikimedia]] is necessary.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It stands nicely as an example of why [[ending Wikimedia]] is necessary.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Sadly the new apprentice trolls fail to comprehend the meaning of [[attribution]]:  to say something stupid, then watch it characterized and quoted as nonsense, then to try to attribute it to the opponent, is a bit transparent as a tactic.  But typical of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] which requires &quot;correcting&quot; true statements into false ones based on &quot;who they believe wrote them&quot; and other such [[ad hominem]] idiocy.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.41.102: why ending Wikimedia is necessary</title>
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		<updated>2004-09-07T21:32:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;why &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Ending_Wikimedia&quot; title=&quot;Ending Wikimedia&quot;&gt;ending Wikimedia&lt;/a&gt; is necessary&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&amp;amp;target=142.177.41.102 This trollog] might be an example of [[heroic trolling]]:&lt;br /&gt;
*it directly stands up for the interests of those attacked by [[EPOV]], [[neoclassical economics]] where [[price]] value is the only value, by advancing various well known uncontroversial arguments against [[gross domestic product]] as a means of measuring [[economic growth]] - all of which are very clearly [[attribution|attributed]]&lt;br /&gt;
*it removes the illegitimate [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] pseudo-rationale in [[w:Wikipedia:candidates for speedy deletion]] that degrades the [[GFDL corpus]] and makes no bones about why:  this is the main way [[Wikipedia violates GFDL]], by refusing to redistribute improvements to GFDL articles that are clearly &amp;quot;encyclopedic&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*it challenges the [[authority]] directly of [[Wikimedia]] and the [[sysop power structure]] to censor this material or restore articles to their biased state&lt;br /&gt;
*it demonstrates that [[sysop power structure]] must, to justify itself, define legitimate edits as [[vandalism]] and &amp;quot;report&amp;quot; them on [[w:Wikipedia:vandalism in progress]] as if it was the contributor, not the [[sysop vandal]] who was engaged in vandalism - classic [[doublethink]]&lt;br /&gt;
*it was cut off by [[sysop vigilantiism]] after a simple cluster of legitimate edits, and a simple exchange with a couple of sysops engaged in [[vigilantiism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It stands nicely as an example of why [[ending Wikimedia]] is necessary.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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