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		<title>Jukeboksi: changed to Company X. Please see the Rules</title>
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		<updated>2003-06-24T16:24:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;changed to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Company_X&quot; title=&quot;Company X&quot;&gt;Company X&lt;/a&gt;. Please see the &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Rules&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Rules&quot;&gt;Rules&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:24, 24 June 2003&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we have GPL Schema and someone modifies it without notifying us (which they are allowed to do) and makes a document following the altered grammar and tries to input it into the system. The software checks it&amp;#039;s validity against the Schema it has and determines it is not compliant and the document is not processed, because the software doesn&amp;#039;t know how to process it.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we have GPL Schema and someone modifies it without notifying us (which they are allowed to do) and makes a document following the altered grammar and tries to input it into the system. The software checks it&amp;#039;s validity against the Schema it has and determines it is not compliant and the document is not processed, because the software doesn&amp;#039;t know how to process it.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:That&#039;s not the problem.  &quot;The software&quot; is not one thing as you suggest.  There will be competition there too.  There will be a modified schema, AND modified software, because a [[self-interested fork]] almost always involves both.  The modified software works with and even EXPECTS the altered grammar, and now you have a fork, and if the promoter of the new fork ([[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/del&gt;]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;], [[Monsanto]], [[oilco]]s&lt;/del&gt;) is powerful enough, they get content poured into the altered grammar that we can&#039;t get first, and (depending on content license) can&#039;t even copy.  Then if that software serves the interests of retailers, say, it will be preferentially installed to use the [[hardware]] deployed to those retailers by [[Consumerium]], and, we&#039;re dead.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:That&#039;s not the problem.  &quot;The software&quot; is not one thing as you suggest.  There will be competition there too.  There will be a modified schema, AND modified software, because a [[self-interested fork]] almost always involves both.  The modified software works with and even EXPECTS the altered grammar, and now you have a fork, and if the promoter of the new fork ([[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Company X&lt;/ins&gt;]) is powerful enough, they get content poured into the altered grammar that we can&#039;t get first, and (depending on content license) can&#039;t even copy.  Then if that software serves the interests of retailers, say, it will be preferentially installed to use the [[hardware]] deployed to those retailers by [[Consumerium]], and, we&#039;re dead.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The right way to address these problems is to lay out &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;worst cases&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/del&gt;one by one, and eventually pick [[licenses]] for each deliverable that seem to make the worst cases not possible, or at least not easy.  The wrong way is to do it by feelings and internal unshared ideas of what will happen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The right way to address these problems is to lay out worst cases one by one, and eventually pick [[licenses]] for each deliverable that seem to make the worst cases not possible, or at least not easy.  The wrong way is to do it by feelings and internal unshared ideas of what will happen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<id>https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:GPL&amp;diff=995&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>142.177.99.155 at 16:42, 22 June 2003</title>
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		<updated>2003-06-22T16:42:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we have GPL Schema and someone modifies it without notifying us (which they are allowed to do) and makes a document following the altered grammar and tries to input it into the system. The software checks it&amp;#039;s validity against the Schema it has and determines it is not compliant and the document is not processed, because the software doesn&amp;#039;t know how to process it.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we have GPL Schema and someone modifies it without notifying us (which they are allowed to do) and makes a document following the altered grammar and tries to input it into the system. The software checks it&amp;#039;s validity against the Schema it has and determines it is not compliant and the document is not processed, because the software doesn&amp;#039;t know how to process it.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:That&#039;s not the problem.  &quot;The software&quot; is not one thing as you suggest.  There will be competition there too.  There will be a modified schema, AND modified software, because a [[self-interested fork]] almost always involves both.  The modified software works with and even EXPECTS the altered grammar, and now you have a fork, and if the promoter of the new fork ([[Microsoft]], [[Monsanto]], [[oilco]]s) is powerful enough, they get content poured into the altered grammar that we can&#039;t get first, and (depending on content license) can&#039;t even copy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:That&#039;s not the problem.  &quot;The software&quot; is not one thing as you suggest.  There will be competition there too.  There will be a modified schema, AND modified software, because a [[self-interested fork]] almost always involves both.  The modified software works with and even EXPECTS the altered grammar, and now you have a fork, and if the promoter of the new fork ([[Microsoft]], [[Monsanto]], [[oilco]]s) is powerful enough, they get content poured into the altered grammar that we can&#039;t get first, and (depending on content license) can&#039;t even copy&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  Then if that software serves the interests of retailers, say, it will be preferentially installed to use the [[hardware]] deployed to those retailers by [[Consumerium]], and, we&#039;re dead.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:The right way to address these problems is to lay out [[worst cases]] one by one, and eventually pick [[licenses]] for each deliverable that seem to make the worst cases not possible, or at least not easy.  The wrong way is to do it by feelings and internal unshared ideas of what will happen&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.99.155: &quot;the software&quot;?</title>
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		<updated>2003-06-22T16:38:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;the software&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;From blog:&lt;br /&gt;
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If we have GPL Schema and someone modifies it without notifying us (which they are allowed to do) and makes a document following the altered grammar and tries to input it into the system. The software checks it&amp;#039;s validity against the Schema it has and determines it is not compliant and the document is not processed, because the software doesn&amp;#039;t know how to process it. &lt;br /&gt;
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:That&amp;#039;s not the problem.  &amp;quot;The software&amp;quot; is not one thing as you suggest.  There will be competition there too.  There will be a modified schema, AND modified software, because a [[self-interested fork]] almost always involves both.  The modified software works with and even EXPECTS the altered grammar, and now you have a fork, and if the promoter of the new fork ([[Microsoft]], [[Monsanto]], [[oilco]]s) is powerful enough, they get content poured into the altered grammar that we can&amp;#039;t get first, and (depending on content license) can&amp;#039;t even copy.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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