Talk:Echo chamber - Revision history

142.177.93.54 at 20:06, 26 June 2004

2004-06-26T20:06:55Z

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	[[sysop power structure\|community structures]] and goodwill. So any user name with 'troll' in it (unless the user can prove it is part of their real name) is very offensive to me and I hope to many other Wikipedians since it represents a force that could destroy our community."		[[sysop power structure\|community structures]] and goodwill. So any user name with 'troll' in it (unless the user can prove it is part of their real name) is very offensive to me and I hope to many other Wikipedians since it represents a force that could destroy our community."

	:Mayer is easily offended however.		:Mayer is easily offended however. The impact is clearly seen in the next post [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-June/013490.html by Mark Richards]

			"Well, assuming you have access to more information than I do, because what has been published is precious flimsy, I'm prepared to take your word for it on JRRT,"

			This "assuming you have access to more information than I do, because what has been published is ... flimsy" is the basis of the [[sysop power structure]] - it pretends to knowledge it does not have, and misrepresents for convenience of itself.

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2004-06-26T20:05:24Z

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	See [[talk:political dispute]] for now.		See [[talk:political dispute]] for now.

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			A specific example of echo chamber methods is [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-June/013475.html this post by Daniel Mayer] which claims:

			"I have also looked into the matter and also agree that JRR is the same as a
			long line of hard-banned troll reincarnations that started with 142.177 and
			probably even 24. In addition to what Fred has said, this user very often links
			to and copies pages that 142.177 and 24 wrote on meta. If this user were not
			142.177 or 24, then how could he have known where all the 142.177's meta pages
			and Wikipedia articles were since 142.177 was a dynamic range and thus his
			edits are not easily tracked?

			The preponderance of evidence is obvious here and IMO it even very close to
			evidence beyond a reasonable doubt (looking at the server logs will determine
			evidence beyond a reasonable doubt). So I also agree with Fred's conclusion:
			that any admin may ban JRR and revert any edit he has made (especially when
			that edit was to restore an edit previously made by 142.177, 24, EoT or Cave
			Troll)."

			:This is obvious [[sysop vandalism]] and based only on Mayer's own hatred for the [[NTPOV]]. It also justifies Mayer's own [[outing]] attempts which have more or less failed. The propaganda continues:

			"[[Trolls]] by there very nature are subversive and tend to tear down
			[[sysop power structure\|community structures]] and goodwill. So any user name with 'troll' in it (unless the user can prove it is part of their real name) is very offensive to me and I hope to many other Wikipedians since it represents a force that could destroy our community."

			:Mayer is easily offended however.

Angela: ditto

2004-02-08T23:26:58Z

ditto

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	See [[talk:political dispute]] for now. This is probably the worst example yet known. [[User:Angela]] has involved MANY innocent parties in her zeal to enforce a meaningless edict, assigning it meaning after the fact in her zeal to make meaning out of the meaningless, and this seems primarily due to echo chamber effect, or excused by phrases thrown around by this effect.		See [[talk:political dispute]] for now.

142.177.74.66: expansion

2003-12-23T23:07:09Z

expansion

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	See [[talk:political dispute]] for now. This is probably the worst example yet known. [[User:Angela]] has involved MANY innocent parties in her zeal to enforce a meaningless ~~edit~~, and this seems primarily due to echo chamber effect, or excused by phrases thrown around by this effect.		See [[talk:political dispute]] for now. This is probably the worst example yet known. [[User:Angela]] has involved MANY innocent parties in her zeal to enforce a meaningless edict, assigning it meaning after the fact in her zeal to make meaning out of the meaningless, and this seems primarily due to echo chamber effect, or excused by phrases thrown around by this effect.

142.177.74.66: link to the best example known: User:Angela's zeal to sabotage the Wikipedia by reverting all edits that AGREE WITH trolls, claiming edicts from authority as if they were reality = she is trash

2003-12-23T23:06:36Z

link to the best example known: User:Angela's zeal to sabotage the Wikipedia by reverting all edits that *AGREE WITH* trolls, claiming edicts from authority as if they were reality = she is trash

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